2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • aardvark
    Veterans List
    • Mar 2010
    • 5685

    Originally posted by KTigers
    So basically a pick 5 is equivalent to a Heeney or a Mills, right? And people want to take poor old broken down unhappy overpaid
    Joe D over a Mills/Heeney level player who could play for us for 10 to 12 years on less money. How many years have we waited for a
    pick like this? Don't we have enough flimsy tall people in the rehab department already? Will there be any room in there anyway for him?
    Nuts, just completely nuts.
    I agree with KT. Players that continually can't get on the park, no matter what their potential,are a complete waste of space and money. JD doesn't even have promotional value.

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    • ernie koala
      Senior Player
      • May 2007
      • 3251

      Originally posted by Blue Sun
      Harsh, but fair. Joe has played 11 games of footy in 2 years. We should not be paying handsomely to get him. Pick him up next year when it won't cost us an arm and a leg. We need strong-bodied, engine room midfielders, not injury-prone tall forwards.
      +1 Our past success with bringing in key forwards (Plugger, Hall, Franklin) doesn't mean this one will work, none of those players came here with 11 games in there previous 2 seasons.

      Daniher is a risk....One worth taking IMO, but at the right price....Pick 5 on it's own is overs, but probably acceptable...But no more than that.

      If Papley goes, I'd be offering pick 9 or wait till next year.

      I'm with you, I'd like to see us bring in a couple of strong inside bulls. We should be looking at clubs who have strong midfielders and see what they have in there 2's...Ala Kennedy
      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        Reported Essendon interested in Mason Cox, overnight Dododoro says definitely untrue, this morning the reporter says 1000% true.

        Dododoro annoyed that the news broke because it shows they are looking for a Daniher replacement meaning they fully expect he is going. Weakens Essendon's bargaining position. We must not cave in on this!

        I ilke your Kurt Daniher Annie :-)

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        • KTigers
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2012
          • 2499

          I'm OK with us not making the finals for another year. Let's face it, we aren't going to win in 2020. Besides, the club should be stronger
          than needing to have a quick fix just because we miss the finals for the first time in a decade. But if we can turn pick 5 into
          "a Tim Taranto" in a few years, and whatever we get for Papley into "another Jordan Dawson" around the same time (I'm a huge
          fan of players who can kick properly), I think we're going to be a whole lot more competitive than we would with Joe Daniher
          playing 12-15 games every second season, getting paid double what he should be.
          I get that it's complimentary that a player wants to come to Sydney at this time when we have two regulars in the side saying
          they don't want to play with us anymore, but I think we should go with the percentages and get players that can stay on the park.

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            The Swans impending recruitment of JD must be contingent on a strong medical opinion that he will return to full fitness. If we can get him on the park regularly, he's potentially the best forward in the competition.

            There are risks/pressures on both sides: If we wait a year to see if he recovers and we can get him for "nothing", there's a strong risk he'll rediscover his love for Essendon and won't want to come. If we get him now, he'll cost more and there's a risk he'll not return to 100% fitness.

            But if Bombers were that convinced they could change his mind, they would put a ridiculous price on his head and back themselves. Either that or they think he's their Hannebery and are playing their cards extremely well!

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            • Ralph Dawg
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2018
              • 1729

              I think our (Harley's) pursuit of Daniher, is within keeping of what goes on with alot of CEOs. They are generally egotistical types and risk takers, who like to play a big game for big results. They are also big on leaving a legacy.

              This is Harley's big play, high risk, high reward. He wants to be remembered as the guy who took a big gamble that effectively won us a premiership.

              I worry that the opposite will be the case.........

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              • Blood Relative
                Warming the Bench
                • Oct 2018
                • 155

                Perhaps we offer a straight swap, Buddy for Joe....just kidding folks.

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                • chalbilto
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1139

                  Originally posted by Blue Sun
                  Harsh, but fair. Joe has played 11 games of footy in 2 years. We should not be paying handsomely to get him. Pick him up next year when it won't cost us an arm and a leg. We need strong-bodied, engine room midfielders, not injury-prone tall forwards.
                  +1

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                  • 111431
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 697

                    Originally posted by Blood Relative
                    Perhaps we offer a straight swap, Buddy for Joe....just kidding folks.
                    Heresy - have this person removed from the room!

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                    • waswan
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 2047

                      Bombers having to gain a 1st Rounder this year will work in our favour

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                      • chalbilto
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1139

                        Originally posted by waswan
                        Bombers having to gain a 1st Rounder this year will work in our favour
                        Why will this happen? I am clueless when it comes to drafting.

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                        • ugg
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15962

                          The Tim Kelly to West Coast trade has been announced. West Coast will give 14, 24, 33 and their future 1st round pick in return for Kelly, 57 and Geelong's future 3rd round pick.

                          Geelong now has 14, 17, 24, 33, 36 and you would expect one of the latter 2 picks to be exchanged to St Kilda for Jack Steven which would then probably be offered to us for Zak Jones.
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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            Originally posted by royboy42
                            Are you sure you really follow the Swans, Annie?
                            She sounds more like a GW$ supporter.

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                            • ugg
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                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15962

                              Originally posted by chalbilto
                              Why will this happen? I am clueless when it comes to drafting.
                              Because the AFL have a rule (whose interpretation seems to keep morphing) that says you have to use at least one first round pick in a 4 year span.

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                              • Bloods05
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1641

                                Originally posted by barry
                                She sounds more like a GW$ supporter.
                                One in particular.

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