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  • 0918330512
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2011
    • 1654

    Originally posted by Captain
    I'm still not as confident about this as everyone on here seems to be. Not sure it changes much except gives us more leverage at the trade table.

    I know he doesn't need to, but would love Tom to come out and say he loves Sydney, is staying etc.

    Until then, there is still loads of time for him to request a trade.
    If the “trigger clause” story is true it gives us lots of leverage. Sitting out of footy for 4 years is a long time

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    • dejavoodoo44
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2015
      • 8497

      Originally posted by bloodspirit

      What is interesting is this: The 23-year-old has been unsettled in Sydney at times since that contract agreement last year but the club has worked with him to ensure he remains a key part of its future. I'm curious what that means.
      It means that we printed a succession of unfounded rumours, without bothering to check with Papley or the Swans. Now that the story has turned out to be totally baseless, we've thrown in that narky little rider, in order to pretend that our poor journalism had some basis in reality.

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      • Blood Fever
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 4040

        Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
        It means that we printed a succession of unfounded rumours, without bothering to check with Papley or the Swans. Now that the story has turned out to be totally baseless, we've thrown in that narky little rider, in order to pretend that our poor journalism had some basis in reality.
        That's what gossip columnists do. Barrett leader of the pack. Caro has her moments as well.

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        • MadCanuck
          Warming the Bench
          • Mar 2009
          • 138

          Any views on Brandon Ellis? Mid 20s, 150+ gamer. Good outside endurance runner. Also doesn't mind the physical part of the game.

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          • S.S. Bleeder
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2014
            • 2165

            Originally posted by ugg
            Good news on the Papley situation, he's triggered a contract extension clause that sees him tied to us till the end of 2023.

            Blues' bid for electric Swans forward hits stumbling block - AFL.com.au
            Aren't contract extension clauses always an obligation on the employing club? For example, the club is obliged to extend the contract but the player has the option to extend if they chose to do so? If so, then he really only has one more year if he wants out.

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            • 111431
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2010
              • 697

              Originally posted by MadCanuck
              Any views on Brandon Ellis? Mid 20s, 150+ gamer. Good outside endurance runner. Also doesn't mind the physical part of the game.
              if we lose Jones he would be worth looking at

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8545

                Originally posted by ugg
                Good news on the Papley situation, he's triggered a contract extension clause that sees him tied to us till the end of 2023.

                Blues' bid for electric Swans forward hits stumbling block - AFL.com.au
                Nearly wet myself when I read that article! It's gold.....

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8545

                  Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                  Aren't contract extension clauses always an obligation on the employing club? For example, the club is obliged to extend the contract but the player has the option to extend if they chose to do so? If so, then he really only has one more year if he wants out.
                  Contained in said article is this sentence.....

                  "Papley quietly extended his deal with the Swans last year for an extra year through to the end of 2021. But that contract also included a trigger clause for an extra two seasons, which he has met."

                  ..... and this one: "He had his post-season exit interview with the Swans this week and did not request a trade out of the club.".

                  That says it all....not going anywhere at the end of next season or the one after that or the one after that.....etc.

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                  • 0918330512
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1654

                    Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                    Aren't contract extension clauses always an obligation on the employing club? For example, the club is obliged to extend the contract but the player has the option to extend if they chose to do so? If so, then he really only has one more year if he wants out.
                    I think you might be right

                    I thought it was called an “option” when the club can impose/exert the extra year on the player (and I’m not sure if the AFLPA allows those anymore

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                    • 0918330512
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1654

                      Originally posted by stevoswan
                      Contained in said article is this sentence.....

                      "Papley quietly extended his deal with the Swans last year for an extra year through to the end of 2021. But that contract also included a trigger clause for an extra two seasons, which he has met."

                      ..... and this one: "He had his post-season exit interview with the Swans this week and did not request a trade out of the club.".

                      That says it all....not going anywhere at the end of next season or the one after that or the one after that.....etc.
                      I’m not sure a player only has the duration of his exit interview to express his desire for a trade

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                      • Aprilbr
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 1803

                        Originally posted by stevoswan
                        Contained in said article is this sentence.....

                        "Papley quietly extended his deal with the Swans last year for an extra year through to the end of 2021. But that contract also included a trigger clause for an extra two seasons, which he has met."

                        ..... and this one: "He had his post-season exit interview with the Swans this week and did not request a trade out of the club.".

                        That says it all....not going anywhere at the end of next season or the one after that or the one after that.....etc.
                        Yes it's hard to think that if he was really interested in moving that he would not raise it in the exit interview. Certainly good news for us! The situation reminds me of the speculation last year that Parker was on his way to Essendon. Proved to be absolutely baseless but the Melbourne media like to go with fantasy stories that help them sell newspapers.

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                        • Blood Fever
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4040

                          Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                          Aren't contract extension clauses always an obligation on the employing club? For example, the club is obliged to extend the contract but the player has the option to extend if they chose to do so? If so, then he really only has one more year if he wants out.
                          Article says he extended contract to include 2021 and then there was a trigger clause, so he has 2 more years rather than one as you suggest?

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                          • erica
                            Happy and I know it
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 1247

                            If Carlton had really been interested in Papley, surely they could have asked his agent when his contract expires? Agents are supposed to know those sorts of things.
                            All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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                            • Kafka's Ghost
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 899

                              Originally posted by erica
                              If Carlton had really been interested in Papley, surely they could have asked his agent when his contract expires? Agents are supposed to know those sorts of things.
                              Good point Erica. Like Longmire going to North and Parker to Essendon, it was probably another AFL rumour-mill thought bubble that took on a life of its own.

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                              • Captain
                                Captain of the Side
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3602

                                Originally posted by 09183305
                                I’m not sure a player only has the duration of his exit interview to express his desire for a trade
                                Correct, that is definitely a good point (and a concerning one).

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