2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Bloods05
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2008
    • 1641

    Originally posted by barry
    I dont know why the AFL decided to stuff it up with the version we have now
    Yes you do Barry. You know why. Look into your heart.

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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      Originally posted by Bloods05
      Yes you do Barry. You know why. Look into your heart.
      Stop stalking me.

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      • KSAS
        Senior Player
        • Mar 2018
        • 1770

        Originally posted by Nico
        Anyone remember John Pitura?
        Very much so!!!. I recall Pitura jumping up & down wanting to join Richmond (who were a power house in the 70's) and South refused to clear him. I'm sure he then quit the club for a short period & then returned to complete the 1974 season, which South then agreed to clear him to Richmond. In exchange we received Brian "Whale" Roberts, Graham Teasdale, Francis Jackson & 45K which was big money back then.

        Arguably the best trade we've ever done. All 3 players were great successes. The whale finished 4th or thereabouts in the 76 Brownlow. I remember just how huge he looked when I first saw him play in red & white. Tom Hafey later said he was filthy the club traded him because moral amongst the players dropped enormously as the Whale was very popular.

        Teaser went on to win the 77 Brownlow & Jackson was a very solid CHB with a long penetrating left boot. I remember he, Browning & Rantall (who returned from North) formed a formidable half back line in 76.
        Last edited by KSAS; 26 September 2019, 04:43 PM.

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          If the Giants win the GF, the Melbourne power brokers will be arguing that the northern clubs get too many concessions. This could negatively affect the Swans, particularly in regard to academy concessions. The AFL prefer that the northern clubs are only there to provide a player development zone for the rest of the league.

          There doesn't even seem to be any AFL embarrassment that the GWS Giants are playing the Richmond Suns in the GF.

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          • stevoswan
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2014
            • 8545

            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
            Let’s say ur Tom Papley

            Let’s say u agreed to a contract extension at the Swans at a time when u were suffering and or on the come back from carpel tunnel syndrome

            Let’s say ur long term girlfriend is finishing her degree in melb but she would like to stay in melb

            Let’s say u would like to head back to melb

            Let’s say ur current contract is $400k pa

            Let’s say north Melbourne offers $750k pa for 3/4 years

            What would u do ?
            Tell my girlfriend to move to Sydney.....

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
              Let’s say ur Tom Papley

              Let’s say u agreed to a contract extension at the Swans at a time when u were suffering and or on the come back from carpel tunnel syndrome

              Let’s say ur long term girlfriend is finishing her degree in melb but she would like to stay in melb

              Let’s say u would like to head back to melb

              Let’s say ur current contract is $400k pa

              Let’s say north Melbourne offers $750k pa for 3/4 years

              What would u do ?
              1. Move to Melbourne
              2. Marry girlfriend
              3. Have a kid
              4. Get divorced

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              • Sandridge
                Outer wing, Lake Oval
                • Apr 2010
                • 2053

                Originally posted by KSAS
                Very much so!!!. I recall Pitura jumping up & down wanting to join Richmond (who were a power house in the 70's) and South refused to clear him. I'm sure he then quit the club for a short period & then returned to complete the 1974 season, which South then agreed to clear him to Richmond. In exchange we received Brian "Whale" Roberts, Graham Teasdale, Francis Jackson & 45K which was big money back then.

                Arguably the best trade we've ever done. All 3 players were great successes. The whale finished 4th or thereabouts in the 76 Brownlow. I remember just how huge he looked when I first saw him play in red & white. Tom Hafey later said he was filthy the club traded him because moral amongst the players dropped enormously as the Whale was very popular.

                Teaser went on to win the 77 Brownlow & Jackson was a very solid CHB with a long penetrating left boot. I remember he, Browning & Rantall (who returned from North) formed a formidable half back line in 76.
                Possibly the best VFL/AFL trade ever! Pitura played just 40 games for Richmond and Teasdale, Roberts and Jackson were all magnificent for us!

                (Of course, we won't mention the Fields/Daniher situation!)

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                • Legs Akimbo
                  Grand Poobah
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 2809

                  Originally posted by KTigers
                  Soon we'll have contracted players wanting to move back to Melbourne because the coffee is better there...
                  I could undertand that.
                  He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                  • bloodspirit
                    Clubman
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 4448

                    The more we talk about this, the more I can't see why we would trade Papley, even for North's first round pick. Not worth it.

                    Incidentally there is zero chance Pap's sits out for years. There'd have to be compelling reasons for that to happen and, if there were, I imagine we'd have heard about it by now and only in that case would we be looking at a trade.
                    All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                    • MattW
                      Veterans List
                      • May 2011
                      • 4196

                      Originally posted by Aprilbr
                      Geelong played hard ball on Kelly at the end of last season refusing to trade him unless they got a good deal and he produced a brilliant season for them this year. Right up in the Brownlow Count. I recall that he got 3 Brownlow votes in both games against us this year!

                      It looks like he will head West now but they will still get as much if not more for him now as they would have last year. A lesson for us in dealing with Papley?

                      Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
                      Opposite is true with Jack Steven.

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                      • goswannies
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3048

                        Originally posted by bloodspirit
                        Incidentally there is zero chance Pap's sits out for years. There'd have to be compelling reasons for that to happen and, if there were, I imagine we'd have heard about it by now and only in that case would we be looking at a trade.
                        It’s interesting (to me at least) that back in the early 1900s-1930’s players would sit out a season or two to get to their club of choice. Different era

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          Originally posted by goswannies
                          It’s interesting (to me at least) that back in the early 1900s-1930’s players would sit out a season or two to get to their club of choice. Different era
                          Interesting bit of history. The reason I'm so confident is because 4 years is not 1 or 2 years.
                          All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                          • Thunder Shaker
                            Aut vincere aut mori
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 4161

                            If Jones goes to St Kilda, it's more likely to be in exchange for a future pick if the Swans will accept one.
                            Saints set for monster Trade Period with crafty Port forward in their sights

                            Players linked to St Kilda: Sam Gray (Port), Paddy Ryder (Port), Bradley Hill (Fremantle), Zak Jones.

                            St Kilda's picks: 5, 55, 67 and 77

                            There's no way the Saints would be recruiting all those players with what they have. Who's going?
                            "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                            • cherub
                              Warming the Bench
                              • May 2010
                              • 239

                              I don't think McCarthy was allowed to play WAFL.

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                              • 707
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6204

                                Good pics on BF trade thread of Papley, Hayward-Florent, Mills, Harry, McCartin, Ronke holidaying in Spain. Another of a heap of NEAFL players plus Blakey in Bali I think (no pre marital sex fellas!)

                                Papley looking very happy as a Swan amongst other loyal Swans, or maybe it's Norf's $900k that has him so happy?

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                                Originally posted by cherub
                                I don't think McCarthy was allowed to play WAFL.
                                Trained the season with his former club if I remember correctly. Couldn't play because he was contracted to GWS.

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