2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • cherub
    Warming the Bench
    • May 2010
    • 239

    Originally posted by liz
    There's a difference between Lyon talking with Carlton (or Carlton speaking with Lyon) in private, and making a quasi-pitch via the media for a job that already has an incumbent. It lacks grace.
    That may be the only time Ross Lyon and the word "grace" have been in the same thought line.

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    • Ruck'n'Roll
      Ego alta, ergo ictus
      • Nov 2003
      • 3990

      Originally posted by bandwagon
      I don't know if there are any mature body rucks in the SANFL or WAFL that have shown potential, but that might be a low cost option.
      It's a strategy that most recently yeilded Knoll - but it might not be a bad strategy if Sinkers is finished - Not a replacement for getting someone like Flynn though

      Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
      The other thing is, and I say this as something who really likes McLean, he's not a ruck. He'll do the pinch hitting stuff as required, but he's not that skilled at either the tap work, or the role around the ground.

      I love his games like last weekend and some of his games earlier in the year where's a hard working, lead up, meet the contest, pull in some marks, straight goal kicking, bullocking tall forward. And if he can keep developing his game and provide that physical presence doing the bash-crash type work, it'll take a lot of pressure of Logan McDonald while he physically develops.

      He's not going to be as skilful, but think of the work Himmelberg did for Cameron during GWS' peak years.
      McLeans played his junior footy in the ruck according to Brereton, which makes his demonstrated lack of capability a bit surprising. It makes me wonder whether he'll improve over time, if he doesn't then on his performances so far we'll be conceding the ruck when he's acting as the relief. I think he's also a bit limited below his knees, but if that can be worked on it will help. I'd prefer Amarty as the relief ruck, but can we play Amarty, McLean and McDonald in the same post-Buddy forward line?

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      • The Runner
        Regular in the Side
        • May 2017
        • 718

        Have we seen Reid and Sinclair play their last games for us?

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          Originally posted by The Runner
          Have we seen Reid and Sinclair play their last games for us?
          Good question. Quite possibly … or was the dropping of Reid a negotiating tactic with his next deal?

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            See AA is in the AA squad of 40, along with Parker, Buddy, Paps and Mills

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            • i'm-uninformed2
              Reefer Madness
              • Oct 2003
              • 4653

              Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
              It's a strategy that most recently yeilded Knoll - but it might not be a bad strategy if Sinkers is finished - Not a replacement for getting someone like Flynn though



              McLeans played his junior footy in the ruck according to Brereton, which makes his demonstrated lack of capability a bit surprising. It makes me wonder whether he'll improve over time, if he doesn't then on his performances so far we'll be conceding the ruck when he's acting as the relief. I think he's also a bit limited below his knees, but if that can be worked on it will help. I'd prefer Amarty as the relief ruck, but can we play Amarty, McLean and McDonald in the same post-Buddy forward line?
              I assume it’s the difference in leagues. A lower level ruckman at 198cm and a physical presence is probably sufficient. At AFL level, you can maybe be 198cm, but that’s on the low side and you need a lot of athleticism to match. I like McLean as a player, but he’s not athletic.
              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                I found a reference to Matt Ling's injury buried in an article on the Hun

                No Cookies | Herald Sun

                Matt Ling (foot) also resumed playing in the past fortnight.

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                • Auntie.Gerald
                  Veterans List
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6474

                  So does that mean AA would have been in our best 5 ?

                  ahead of Rampe, Lloyd, Dawson etc ?

                  hmmmm
                  "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    Originally posted by Markwebbos
                    I found a reference to Matt Ling's injury buried in an article on the Hun

                    No Cookies | Herald Sun

                    Matt Ling (foot) also resumed playing in the past fortnight.
                    Good find.

                    I don't know why the club doesn't talk about injured players not in the highlights. There's also McDonald who has been out with crack in the jaw for a few weeks.

                    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                    So does that mean AA would have been in our best 5 ?

                    ahead of Rampe, Lloyd, Dawson etc ?

                    hmmmm
                    I still remember a post I made after the trade: AA + PA = AA

                    And I still question why we couldn't find a solution to getting Hickey while retaining Aliir, but we will never know the facts as they stood at the time.

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                    • MattW
                      Veterans List
                      • May 2011
                      • 4195

                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      I found a reference to Matt Ling's injury buried in an article on the Hun

                      No Cookies | Herald Sun

                      Matt Ling (foot) also resumed playing in the past fortnight.
                      LOL (poor Matt).

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                      • Bangalore Swans
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Mar 2021
                        • 1049

                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        Good find.

                        I don't know why the club doesn't talk about injured players not in the highlights. There's also McDonald who has been out with crack in the jaw for a few weeks.


                        I still remember a post I made after the trade: AA + PA = AA

                        And I still question why we couldn't find a solution to getting Hickey while retaining Aliir, but we will never know the facts as they stood at the time.
                        Swans weren’t playing him regularly in his preferred defensive intercept position.

                        I was always puzzled after a breakout 2016 that the Swans didn’t continue to back him in defence.

                        Hinkley wanted AA on his team and in his defence.

                        Hinkley went after him and AA felt inspired.

                        Well played by Hinkley.
                        Last edited by Bangalore Swans; 23 August 2021, 07:58 PM.

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          Originally posted by Markwebbos
                          See AA is in the AA squad of 40, along with Parker, Buddy, Paps and Mills
                          Of our 4, I think only Papley genuinely in contention. Greene plays a similar role. Could they be fighting for one spot?
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                          • Aprilbr
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 1803

                            Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                            Swans weren’t playing him regularly in his preferred defensive intercept position.

                            I was always puzzled after a breakout 2016 that the Swans didn’t continue to back him in defence.

                            Hinkley wanted AA on his team and in his defence.

                            Hinkley went after him and AA felt inspired.

                            Well played by Hinkley.
                            A key factor in AA's departure was our well-known salary cap issues. He also wasn't too keen on playing in the Ruck. Port offered him a very generous long-term contract which he has certainly lived up to. I expect him to be named in the final team; AA = AA.

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                            • longmile
                              Crumber
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 3362

                              Pyke declines the pies role! I was certain he was going. I reckon he'll be staying with us next year!

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                              • Aprilbr
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2016
                                • 1803

                                Originally posted by longmile
                                Pyke declines the pies role! I was certain he was going. I reckon he'll be staying with us next year!
                                Yes, great news for us. McRae has gone from not even mentioned to hot favourite to coach the Pies.

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