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  • stevoswan
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2014
    • 8543

    Originally posted by Roadrunner
    The player I think we should pursue next year is Aaron Naughton. Post Buddy, we need a top forward who can also help improve our presence in the Sydney market and he would be ideal. What would it take to get him? Could we fit him in our cap?
    If the Dogs win tonight, he might be gettable.....but do we really want that?

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    • Roadrunner
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2018
      • 1447

      Originally posted by stevoswan
      If the Dogs win tonight, he might be gettable.....but do we really want that?
      No, we don’t! But if they don’t win tonight, they won’t have a chance against us next few years!

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      • Mark26
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2017
        • 1535

        Originally posted by Roadrunner
        The player I think we should pursue next year is Aaron Naughton. Post Buddy, we need a top forward who can also help improve our presence in the Sydney market and he would be ideal. What would it take to get him? Could we fit him in our cap? Darcy Moore is a fantastic player but wouldn’t have the same excitement factor, though I’d be more than happy to have him.
        I'd be more inclined to start to build a forward line around Logan McDonald. Besides, I think we'd have to give up an awful lot to get Naughton. After just getting the farm back post-Buddy, we might have to remortgage it.

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        • troyjones2525
          Swans Fanatic!
          • Mar 2008
          • 2908

          Originally posted by liz
          They will both be tied to SA clubs as Next Generation players. O'Loughlin is tied to the Crows. Not sure about Wanganeed-Milera (and haven't gone to look it up). That means that any club that wants to be sure to get them would have to draft them in the first 19 picks (or is it 20 picks?). After that, their "host" club has the right to match a bid. Of course, there's a chance that a bid wouldn't be matched if it were early in the second round.

          I watched bits and pieces of this afternoon's U19 curtain raiser game, and BOL looked pretty good. I see he was awarded BOG honours for SA for the game. The position he played today (assuming that's his preferred or most natural position) isn't one where we've got anything coming through the squad at the moment, so he would fill a needs gap more than a vanilla midfielder. I guess it depends on whether there are any taller prospects around that same spot in the draft who fill a more important list hole.
          I believe they can't match inside the first 40 picks Liz so they should definitely both be taken before then surely!

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          • MattW
            Veterans List
            • May 2011
            • 4195

            Originally posted by Mark26
            I'd be more inclined to start to build a forward line around Logan McDonald. Besides, I think we'd have to give up an awful lot to get Naughton. After just getting the farm back post-Buddy, we might have to remortgage it.
            Exactly. Back Logan.

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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16737

              Originally posted by troyjones2525
              I believe they can't match inside the first 40 picks Liz so they should definitely both be taken before then surely!

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              Inside the first 20 this year. It extends to first 40 next year.

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              • dejavoodoo44
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2015
                • 8492

                Originally posted by liz
                They will both be tied to SA clubs as Next Generation players. O'Loughlin is tied to the Crows. Not sure about Wanganeed-Milera (and haven't gone to look it up). That means that any club that wants to be sure to get them would have to draft them in the first 19 picks (or is it 20 picks?). After that, their "host" club has the right to match a bid. Of course, there's a chance that a bid wouldn't be matched if it were early in the second round.

                I watched bits and pieces of this afternoon's U19 curtain raiser game, and BOL looked pretty good. I see he was awarded BOG honours for SA for the game. The position he played today (assuming that's his preferred or most natural position) isn't one where we've got anything coming through the squad at the moment, so he would fill a needs gap more than a vanilla midfielder. I guess it depends on whether there are any taller prospects around that same spot in the draft who fill a more important list hole.
                From what I can make out, Wanganeen-Milera is not tied to any club. Which seems a bit odd, but none of the articles on draft prospects, mention anything about him being a NGA prospect. Nor is he a father son, as his father Terry Milera only played 30 games for St Kilda.

                On a slight tangent, I'm not sure if the SA defender that I'm keen on, Leek Alleer, is a NGA or not? He seems to have been a prospect for Adelaide, when he was 18, but since he badly broke his leg back then, they didn't draft him. So I'm not sure if they retain any NGA privileges, now that he's 20 and looking likely to be drafted?

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                • TheBloods
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 2047

                  Originally posted by Mark26
                  I'd be more inclined to start to build a forward line around Logan McDonald. Besides, I think we'd have to give up an awful lot to get Naughton. After just getting the farm back post-Buddy, we might have to remortgage it.
                  Yes we have the young talent there . Just needs to be fostered

                  Mcdonald could anchor a forward line , got a good head on his shoulders , smart player , skilful .

                  As for the silly talk of needing Heeney to be our Petracca , we have one , his name is Chad warner , he is doing things in his first 15 games Petracca could only dream of doing .

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                  • Mark26
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1535

                    Originally posted by TheBloods
                    Yes we have the young talent there . Just needs to be fostered

                    Mcdonald could anchor a forward line , got a good head on his shoulders , smart player , skilful .

                    As for the silly talk of needing Heeney to be our Petracca , we have one , his name is Chad warner , he is doing things in his first 15 games Petracca could only dream of doing .
                    I tend to think that if we back our young talent in to the team, in their right positions, then there's more of a chance of keeping this group together.

                    I agree with you about Warner and Heaney. Leave Warner in the engine room. I think Heaney's role (with stints in the guts) should primarily be forward, but I hope that Campbell in 2022 works his way into the mids.

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11328

                      I think Campbell was played off half back due to his light frame. I expect him to be in the midfield at the start of the season.
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                      • TheBloods
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Feb 2020
                        • 2047

                        Originally posted by Mark26
                        I hope that Campbell in 2022 works his way into the mids.
                        He will

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8149

                          Originally posted by Nico
                          I think Campbell was played off half back due to his light frame. I expect him to be in the midfield at the start of the season.
                          I suspect it was part his light frame, and part it is not a bad role to play during your development years on an AFL list to 'round out' your capability - in much the same Mills spent quite a bit of time down there. If Dawson was not leaving I would have suspected he will play a lot more in the midfield group, but wonder because of that development whether he might have a bit more time off the half back flank then suspected.

                          Going to be very interesting watching him and Errol development. Errol the flashier player of the two, but I sense in Campbell there may be more leadership qualities in him. I suspect both will become close to elite, if not elite footballers in time.
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • Markwebbos
                            Veterans List
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7186

                            I thought Guiden has a much better tank than Campbell, and that’s going to limit the latter’s ability to play midfield.

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16737

                              Originally posted by mcs

                              Going to be very interesting watching him and Errol development. Errol the flashier player of the two, but I sense in Campbell there may be more leadership qualities in him. I suspect both will become close to elite, if not elite footballers in time.
                              I'd have them the other way round. I think Campbell is more flashy than Errol - or at least, his raw tools lend themselves more to flashiness, but I also think Errol's all round game is more developed at the moment.

                              I'm willing to wager that Errol is a future captain of the club, assuming injuries don't get in the way. He sees the game so quickly, and he's already happy to tell his senior team mates where to go and what to do. (I acknowledge some of them may not be as happy about that as he is, but I think it shows his confidence in his knowledge of the game and the game plan at such a young age.) I also think he's a remarkably mature and articulate young man - more so than Campbell at this stage.

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                              • i'm-uninformed2
                                Reefer Madness
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4653

                                With Campbell, wondering if he’s best suited to slot more into that role slightly behind the ball, the way Salem does for Melbourne. Daniel does it for the Dogs. Neither play as pure defenders. It’s kind of the role McVeigh played in his latter years.

                                Campbell has the benefits of pure speed, and arguably a more penetrating kick. The three I mentioned above all have exceptional footy IQ so if Campbell can read the play like that, he could be lethal in the role.

                                Be keen to hear from those who watched his junior footy as to his best position.
                                'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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