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  • cruiser
    What the frack!
    • Jul 2004
    • 6114

    Originally posted by Captain
    It’s amazing how underrated Dawson is by some.

    Losing Aliir has made us look stupid. That will be nothing compared to this.
    Losing Mitchell for well below his true value made us look stupid too, especially when he collected a Brownlow two years later.
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    • MattW
      Veterans List
      • May 2011
      • 4195

      Originally posted by Markwebbos
      I think all bets are off with Covid
      I think this is a good point. Even if it's not the whole reason (and money is part), it's feasibly part of the reason. If Dawson was in SA this year, he'd have been at home the entire time and able to see his parents. I think he's settled with his girlfriend. It's not like he's seeking a trade to any place.

      Still super disappointed and surprised, though. I thought he was committed.

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      • Captain
        Captain of the Side
        • Feb 2004
        • 3602

        Originally posted by cruiser
        Losing Mitchell for well below his true value made us look stupid too, especially when he collected a Brownlow two years later.
        Exactly.

        That’s the other thing which pisses me off. We gave up Mitchell and Aliir for absolutely nothing. Hi Hawks, how about we give you a future brownlow medalist and you give us a crap first round pick. Sounds fair.

        Bet we do the same with Dawson.

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        • longmile
          Crumber
          • Apr 2011
          • 3362

          Since COLA was scrapped we have been leaking players every year

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          • Captain
            Captain of the Side
            • Feb 2004
            • 3602

            Originally posted by longmile
            Since COLA was scrapped we have been leaking players every year
            I get the leaks like Rohan, Mummmy, Hanners etc that can happen.

            It’s losing top YOUNG talent that’s the issue. Aliir, Mitchell and now Dawson.

            Sure we signed Parker and got Hickey as part of the Aliir deal. However both hardly have their best footy in front of them.

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            • Scottee
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 1585

              Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
              From the bits and pieces of the academy games that I've seen, I think Angus Anderson is the most likely. A tough inside mid with a rugby background, who uses the ball creatively. He also acquitted himself well in a VFL game this season. Last time I looked, he was the only one from our academy to be invited to the draft combine. I think he's probably done enough for a rookie spot.

              I was hoping to check him and a few others out, in an Allies game, but it seems that their games have been cancelled. These are our players who made the squad. Toby Alker, Kye Pfrengle, Liam Puncher, Felix Rogers, Angus Anderson and Pierce Roseby. Pfrengle was really good in the first academy game of the season, but he was injured the rest of the year. He was our best defender for most of the game and then went forward late, and looked our best forward. Roseby would have helped his cause, by playing a couple of good games at VFL level.
              I think Pfrengle is a chance. Looked a class above from what I have seen. Fits the need for a third tall in the backline too.

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              • i'm-uninformed2
                Reefer Madness
                • Oct 2003
                • 4653

                Originally posted by longmile
                Since COLA was scrapped we have been leaking players every year
                Correct. We knew it was coming, as did the club. Mike Fitzpatrick should be burned alive.
                'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                • 707
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  Originally posted by caj23
                  Dawson gone from swans media
                  GUTTED! Hurts me more than any other player we've lost in my time

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                  • Roadrunner
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 1449

                    Originally posted by Captain
                    I get the leaks like Rohan, Mummmy, Hanners etc that can happen.

                    It’s losing top YOUNG talent that’s the issue. Aliir, Mitchell and now Dawson.

                    Sure we signed Parker and got Hickey as part of the Aliir deal. However both hardly have their best footy in front of them.
                    It’s not over till the fat lady sings. There is a way to go and things may change. Of course it will hurt like hell if we lose him, but realistically what cards do we hold? Is it for money? Surely our offer couldn’t have been too
                    inferior. And didn’t he say a little while ago for us not to worry? Maybe we just have to accept that loyalty is becoming rare these days. Sad for us supporters.

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                    • bloodspirit
                      Clubman
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 4448

                      Gutted. Huge loss.
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                      • Mark26
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 1535

                        Originally posted by bloodspirit
                        Gutted. Huge loss.
                        This hurts more than losing to GWS the other day. JD is a gun.

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                        • The Big Cat
                          On the veteran's list
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2350

                          Least it may help us keep McDonald at the end of next year. He may be more influential than Dawson.
                          Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                          • i'm-uninformed2
                            Reefer Madness
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4653

                            Other question is whether it changes the equation for George.

                            “Err, sorry George, didn’t realise our email was down and the contract offer didn’t make it through.”
                            'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                            • mcs
                              Travelling Swannie!!
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8149

                              Originally posted by The Big Cat
                              Least it may help us keep McDonald at the end of next year. He may be more influential than Dawson.
                              I reckon we will offer him a very long contract should he go well over pre-season and establish himself a position in the forward line early in the year. Noting there is always risks with key forwards that they may not make it, but the WA clubs will sniff around more than Cousins on a Friday night at the first hint they think he might be gettable.
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                              • AB Swannie
                                Senior Player
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 1579

                                I think this is the first time in recent memory where we have lost a player that we really wanted to keep.

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