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See Port want a first rounder for Ladhams, a player who's salary I think they would like to dump
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So I don’t know this doofus from a bar of soap but my Crows friend tells me he’s on the drip from the club. Says Swans knocked back 17 and some later future pick/s. Sounds like we’re determined to get into top 10 to target a player.
Theo Doropoulos on Twitter: "It's understood late this afternoon, Sydney knocked back Adelaide's offer of pick 17 (with some future selections) for Jordan Dawson.
With the Crows holding pick 4 in the pre-season draft, the Swans can't afford to be too bold.
@7NewsAdelaide #AFLTrade"'Delicious' is a fun word to sayComment
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Free agency compensation isn't intended to be "fair" (to the extent "fair" means anything in this context). It's designed to give the losing club something as a sweetener, but less than the "intrinsic value" of the player (again, to the extent that means anything, or at least, that it can be measured or otherwise quantified). Since George was a restricted free agent, the Swans had the choice to match the bid and either keep the player or try to extract something more in trade.
Bear in mind the Hawks received an end of first round draft pick as compensation for losing Franklin. (Technically it was a band 1 pick - ie coming immediately after their existing first round pick, but since they won the premiership, the effect was to give them the last pick in the first round as compensation.)Comment
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Doesn't necessarily mean they have a top 10 likely target. They might just be holding out for what they perceive as "fair" just for the point of doing that.
Over the years, the club has sought to be quite easy to deal with. At times, to fans, that has felt like "bending over". Even based on his pre-2021 form, what we got in return for Aliir wasn't great. We took unders for Mitchell and Jones too. Maybe they've decided this is the trade to stand their ground and declare that they're not easy beats.Comment
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See Stan are making a behind-the-scenes doco about the player agents during this trade and draft period. I think it will be fascinating viewing.
Film crews tracking players, agents, more in behind-the-scenes docoComment
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And the AFL reporting that Swans had a zoom meeting with Ladhams last week, but are not keen on paying the first rounder asking price (which might explain Gardiner's somewhat evasive response today)
Why Cerra deal is dragging on, two clubs hunting Power tall Peter LadhamsComment
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From the AFL. At the expense of every other club with a pick after this that gets pushed back.
(I'd be in favour of getting rid of compensation picks entirely - but acknowledge that some clubs are more vulnerable to losing players to FA than others.)Comment
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I prefer to think that the club has been pragmatic rather than “easy” and I am confident that nothing has changed in this situation. KB doesn’t operate on emotion. I believe he knows what we can get and how we can get it. Time will tell but I’d be very surprised if we now fail to get a better deal than what has been reported today.Comment
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It's funny they've chosen this year to make a stand (not so funny for the Crows I guess). I wonder if it was due to the (relative) member uproar when favourite son AA left for diddly or whether it's just the realisation that if they don't make a stand now they may be watching Warner/Hayward/McDonald/Florent etc walk out the door to their favoured destination for the aforesaid diddly.
Whatever the case, I'm delighted to see it.Comment
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Can someone listen to the "why the Swans have $3Million to splash" just up on the AFL website and report back please. My internet is waaaaay too slow to listen to that
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Should have clarified my remark more. There’s two ways to define value. One is pick 17 plus other later or future picks, for example.
The other is the full value of a high, top 10 pick. For example, if we are after Mac Andrew or the best KPD, having 17 and others is likely worthless. To have the option to get a specific player, you’ll likely need a pick in that range.
Yes, we should be firm and clear in seeking full value, but it is also about how it is delivered in a way that also fits your drafting and trading intentions.'Delicious' is a fun word to sayComment
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If that's true, then it would mean the Swans are demanding the Crows give up pick 4; either directly or by splitting it to give us a better first rounder than pick 17. The Richmond deal would give them 7 and 15 for it. They could then hang onto pick 7 and give us 15 and 23 (which is equivalent to around pick 4 and a half).
Adelaide move 3 places down in the draft but get JD for just pick 23Comment
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Interesting that even Stephen Silvagni is saying that he thinks that Jordan Dawson and Adam Cerra are on par... his exact words were .. "maybe a couple of spots away from each other".
He did reiterate what Charlie Gairdner emphasised in his earlier interview.
Looks like the Crows may have to look at their future first rounder, if they want to hold on to their pick 4 this draft.
After the first 4 picks, the next 15-20 picks are all similar according to my friend in a Melbourne recruiting department, so it may be advantageous in getting another pick next year.Comment
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Didn't bother listening to the story, but the article on the AFL site, quoted Barrett as saying something like, 'since we offered Dawson a 5 year contract and that contract must have been around $600,000 a year, then we now have all that money to splash'.
I doubt if I need to explain, why that 'thinking' doesn't really match the headline.Comment
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