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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Originally posted by liz
    Tarryn Thomas “wrestling“ with handing in trade request at North Melbourne

    SEN are reporting that Tarryn Thomas may be getting restless at North. He's one player - maybe the only player potentially on the move this off-season - who'd I'd love to see in red and white. I hate the idea of ransacking any club when they are down, but I could probably make an exception for North.

    He had his issues this season, with suggestions he wasn't fit enough or committed enough, but any club who can get his head in the right place could have a top grader on their hands. And I think he'd complement our existing midfield group well.
    TT at his best is quite a good player.

    What would you offer for him? Would our 2nd rounder enough, given all his recent problems? Or perhaps too much.

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    • Foreign Legion
      Senior Player
      • Feb 2003
      • 3371

      Originally posted by Ludwig
      Be thankful that TB has been delisted, else you'd be in for a real tongue lashing.
      Er... who is TB?

      I think Roberts is pretty good - a very good kick but might be a bit slow.

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        Originally posted by liz
        Tarryn Thomas “wrestling“ with handing in trade request at North Melbourne

        SEN are reporting that Tarryn Thomas may be getting restless at North. He's one player - maybe the only player potentially on the move this off-season - who'd I'd love to see in red and white. I hate the idea of ransacking any club when they are down, but I could probably make an exception for North.

        He had his issues this season, with suggestions he wasn't fit enough or committed enough, but any club who can get his head in the right place could have a top grader on their hands. And I think he'd complement our existing midfield group well.
        Has a friendship with Blakey? from their Allies year. Let's be frank, if you're struggling a bit, Norf is hardly the kind of environment to set you right.

        Thomas last half of 2022 was outstanding, if he wants to come to us, I'm all for it. We have the picks to get it done.

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        • rb4x
          Regular in the Side
          • Dec 2007
          • 968

          Originally posted by Ludwig
          TT at his best is quite a good player.

          What would you offer for him? Would our 2nd rounder enough, given all his recent problems? Or perhaps too much.
          Our 2nd rounder might be enough except it is with Port. Pick 19 might do it but there are players in the draft I would use it on. Our 3rd rounder might not be enough. Would be happy to tell Melican that he is stuck behind the McCartins and would have more opportunities at North and convince somebody (who is left) that Melican is the answer to their defensive needs and that they need a clean out of disgruntled players and take TT. Don't see it happening though.

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            We have our second rounder, currently pick 36 and drifting. We don't have a third rounder.

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            • troyjones2525
              Swans Fanatic!
              • Mar 2008
              • 2908

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              Be thankful that TB has been delisted, else you'd be in for a real tongue lashing.
              Has TB been delisted???

              Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

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              • rb4x
                Regular in the Side
                • Dec 2007
                • 968

                Originally posted by 707
                We have our second rounder, currently pick 36 and drifting. We don't have a third rounder.
                Should have checked. Yes it is 3rd rounder tied to Port.

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16778

                  Originally posted by 707
                  Has a friendship with Blakey? from their Allies year. Let's be frank, if you're struggling a bit, Norf is hardly the kind of environment to set you right.

                  Thomas last half of 2022 was outstanding, if he wants to come to us, I'm all for it. We have the picks to get it done.
                  2021?

                  I'd happily hand over either of our first round picks for Thomas. He's still only 22 and, based on our drafting over the last decade or so, the likelihood of us using a teens picks to find a player whose ceiling is as high as Thomas's is pretty darned low.

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                  • troyjones2525
                    Swans Fanatic!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2908

                    Originally posted by liz
                    2021?

                    I'd happily hand over either of our first round picks for Thomas. He's still only 22 and, based on our drafting over the last decade or so, the likelihood of us using a teens picks to find a player whose ceiling is as high as Thomas's is pretty darned low.
                    Agree. If he's committed to coming and wants to play and live in Sydney he's definitely worth the investment of a late first rounder.

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                    • Smith
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Feb 2021
                      • 35

                      Didn’t realise TT was born in Sydney and spent first 12 years of his life here playing league before moving to TAS and taking up Aussie Rules.

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        Originally posted by Smith
                        Didn’t realise TT was born in Sydney and spent first 12 years of his life here playing league before moving to TAS and taking up Aussie Rules.
                        Where do we sign up, come on home TT, much warmer in Sydney :-)

                        Sorry Liz, that was of course meant to read 2021 when TT looked every bit worth his pick 8. I'm happy to deal a first to Norf, the guy has top level talent waiting to be tapped and is ready to guy unlike an 18yo draftee. Hope we're talking to his manager

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                        • i'm-uninformed2
                          Reefer Madness
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 4653

                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          Be thankful that TB has been delisted, else you'd be in for a real tongue lashing.
                          I thought he’d been on ok (just ok) behaviour lately or did I miss something?
                          'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                          • rb4x
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 968

                            We have missed one TT. Taranto off to Richmond for picks 12 & 19 and they still think they will get Hopper.

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              Originally posted by liz

                              I'd happily hand over either of our first round picks for Thomas. He's still only 22 and, based on our drafting over the last decade or so, the likelihood of us using a teens picks to find a player whose ceiling is as high as Thomas's is pretty darned low.
                              I agree that his 2021 was very impressive, but the rest of his career has me worried and I think he's a big risk. If our recruiters were convinced that he will regain that 2021 form at the Swans, then he would be worth a late 1st round pick.

                              The other concern that I have is that we have a lot a similar types of young players, so he could squeeze out a player of similar calibre. Hugo Hall Kahan is a similar size and similar skill set. I've been impressed with HHK and see him with a similar ceiling as TT, but it's a small dataset that I'm basing that on. I would prefer to use our 2 first rounders for KPPs this year.

                              We really have to milk these hypothetical trades, because it looks as though we are going to be the least active club in the trade period.
                              Last edited by Ludwig; 3 October 2022, 05:07 PM.

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                              • Aprilbr
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2016
                                • 1803

                                I'm just catching up on today's interesting set of posts. Here are my thoughts for what its worth:

                                1. Great news on Lloyd re-signing. He is a very consistent and dependable player. Generally good under pressure too. We have essentially re-signed all of our key players coming out of contract. This reflects well on our club culture. Many others would love this outcome.

                                2. I think we need to bring in another developing ruckmen and delist one or both of Crayfish and Stretch.

                                3. Some admirable out of the box thinking about Gould from Ludwig. Personally, I don't think he is quick or agile enough to play in the midfield but it could be worth a try.

                                4. One reporter recently suggested we give McLean a try as a key defender to play on the monsters. What do others think about that prospect?

                                5. Tarryn Thomas is a big yes from me if we can entice him up to Sydney. I would give up one of our first rounders for him.

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