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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Originally posted by TheBloods
    So what , hes not a pick anything , hes a Swan now. If hes good enough , play him. If his kicking is his issue then cmon , hes not alone there is he
    I think you're missing the point We would love to play him, but his kicking efficiency has been so poor, it's hard to justify a call up. None of his 13 kicks resulted in the Swans retaining the ball. Imagine having that sort of kicking in the AFL side. I thought the idea was to bring well performing VFL players into the senior side, not the poor performing players.

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
      His evasiveness is still very good, but the ability to run away, might not be that closely tied to confidence?
      Maybe he's hoping we leave the gates open and he can run all the way back to Adelaide.

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      • TheBloods
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Feb 2020
        • 2047

        Originally posted by Ludwig
        I think you're missing the point We would love to play him, but his kicking efficiency has been so poor, it's hard to justify a call up. None of his 13 kicks resulted in the Swans retaining the ball. Imagine having that sort of kicking in the AFL side. I thought the idea was to bring well performing VFL players into the senior side, not the poor performing players.
        He did perform , just not in the way you 'd like. So he cant kick , big deal. He runs and carries , he can dance out of tackles . Works hard , cracks in and wins the footy and can get it on a string . If we are putting the cloche on blokes just for their kicking then i can think of a few in the seniors who would get the boot !

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        • COB
          Pushing for Selection
          • Jan 2021
          • 89

          Originally posted by TheBloods
          He did perform , just not in the way you 'd like. So he cant kick , big deal. He runs and carries , he can dance out of tackles . Works hard , cracks in and wins the footy and can get it on a string . If we are putting the cloche on blokes just for their kicking then i can think of a few in the seniors who would get the boot !
          Disagree with most of that. From the games I have seen he "doesn't dance out of tackles, crack in and win the footy and get it on a string". Either that or the selectors don't want to pick our best available 22. I know which makes more sense.
          Also only had 1 tackle on the weekend. Enjoy your latest cause celebre

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          • Faunac8
            Senior Player
            • Mar 2014
            • 1548

            I don’t profess to have any insight into the performances of players in the VFL team and am no expert but surely it is of no real benefit to the team if a player does all the hard work in winning the football but then gives it straight back ?
            Especially if that turnover occurs in an area of the ground where it leaves his teammates exposed to an unexpected counter attack.
            You would think that if this was occurring that it would be a fair and understandable reason for not being selected in the senior team.

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by TheBloods
              He did perform , just not in the way you 'd like. So he cant kick , big deal. He runs and carries , he can dance out of tackles . Works hard , cracks in and wins the footy and can get it on a string . If we are putting the cloche on blokes just for their kicking then i can think of a few in the seniors who would get the boot !
              Okay. Let's bring him in. Straight to the mids, to borrow a phrase, if you don't mind.

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              • TheBloods
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Feb 2020
                • 2047

                Originally posted by Ludwig
                Okay. Let's bring him in. Straight to the mids, to borrow a phrase, if you don't mind.
                Just my opinion , you dont have to get smart .

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  Originally posted by TheBloods
                  Just my opinion , you dont have to get smart .
                  Your arguments were very convincing in the end and you won me over.

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                  • Aprilbr
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 1803

                    We did have one player running around in the Reserves yesterday who is a brilliant kick and will likely have a great senior career for us going forward - Campbell.

                    I also don't think we should write Roberts off after one senior game. He looked behind the pace in his first senior game but I think he will learn a lot from that. Chad Warner hardly set the world on fire in his first game.

                    Melican is playing well in the Reserves so he could easily come in if we lost one of the McCartins or Ramps to injury. I'm not as sold on Gould as others but am happy to see him given a go.

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                    • Roadrunner
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 1481

                      Originally posted by Aprilbr
                      We did have one player running around in the Reserves yesterday who is a brilliant kick and will likely have a great senior career for us going forward - Campbell.

                      I also don't think we should write Roberts off after one senior game. He looked behind the pace in his first senior game but I think he will learn a lot from that. Chad Warner hardly set the world on fire in his first game.

                      Melican is playing well in the Reserves so he could easily come in if we lost one of the McCartins or Ramps to injury. I'm not as sold on Gould as others but am happy to see him given a go.
                      Campbell should not have been dropped and Wicks kept in. Having said that, Wicks probably played his best game for the season with only one silly free and contributed. Well done! But if I had to chose between them, a no brainer for me, even though HF is not Campbell’ s best position.

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                      • longmile
                        Crumber
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3367

                        Surely Clarke gets a game ahead of Stephens. Has played some massive games in the reserves and plays with heart. I'd love to see him come in to play a tagging role when we're playing the better teams. Sure his disposal isn't damaging, but its sure better than Stephens!

                        You'd think Clarke would only get a game if Rowbottom, Parker or Mills went down.

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                        • Faunac8
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 1548

                          Originally posted by longmile
                          Surely Clarke gets a game ahead of Stephens. Has played some massive games in the reserves and plays with heart. I'd love to see him come in to play a tagging role when we're playing the better teams. Sure his disposal isn't damaging, but its sure better than Stephens!

                          You'd think Clarke would only get a game if Rowbottom, Parker or Mills went down.
                          I agree that Ryan has done everything possible to be selected in the seniors however we just played one of the better teams ( some would say the best team ) and beat them without resorting to tagging .
                          Yes we pressured them so much that they were second guessing themselves especially in the second quarter but I don’t think we ran a tag as such all night.
                          We definitely made the Dee’s accountable but it was a team effort across the ground.
                          I have seen opinions expressed on other forums that by playing JB as a tagger earlier in the year we actually detracted from what he can offer in a more traditional attacking midfield role. The last couple of weeks have added weight to that theory.
                          I agree he could be a handy backup if required but maybe our game style has evolved so that that style of player isn’t part of our game plan moving forward ?

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                          • Scottee
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 1585

                            Unfortunately Clarke's disposal is terrible and makes him a liability in the seniors. Its really sad, because every other aspect of his game is very good.

                            Worryingly, Stephens' disposal seems to now be on a par with Clarke's. They are like twins.
                            We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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                              • Jan 2003
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                              • royboy42
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 2078

                                I can't quite get how Campbell is in the twos.

                                Is he being trained up to play wing, high forward, or somesuch?

                                Were his recent performances in the firsts seen as down in standard enough to be relegated?. Not by me, btw.

                                I'd love to be enlightened, cos I'm puzzled.

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