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  • Ruck'n'Roll
    Ego alta, ergo ictus
    • Nov 2003
    • 3990

    "wingman" or "swingman" Liz?

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16778

      Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
      "wingman" or "swingman" Liz?

      I meant "wingman". As in support act, not someone who plays on the wing. Though he probably could play on the wing if he weren't more valuable elsewhere.

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      • Roadrunner
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2018
        • 1481

        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        Tiges
        Melbourne
        Cats

        all brought in significant trades to have the absolute class and depth needed in specific roles to win GFs

        we will have to also
        That’s so true Auntie- it seems without “pinching” established talent to fill the missing pieces, very hard to win a GF unless you’re a Fairypup!
        Buddy wanted out from Melbourne City so he was leaving anyway. I’m not sure what the situation was with Tippett and Plugger, but Big Bad Barry had to leave the Saints as well. Other than these, I can’t recall any other top player we enticed from rival clubs. We had a reputation for turning average players into top tier like Teddy Richards etc.

        This year, as we so badly need 1-2 KPP’s, we will need some creative accounting re our salary cap, just like our Melbourne based rivals seem to be doing, and get ‘em. Fight fire with fire! It’s sickening to see what clubs like Geelong have gotten away with over the years- patently obvious they haven’t played by the same rules as we have and so have signed players with carefree abandon!

        The AFL is useless in this regard, as they should have put a stop to this years ago. We just have to find a way around the rules like others have- I don’t like it, but what choice do we have if we want to win a flag?

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Originally posted by liz
          I meant "wingman". As in support act, not someone who plays on the wing. Though he probably could play on the wing if he weren't more valuable elsewhere.
          Or maybe you meant support for Tom Cruise in a Tog Gun movie.

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          • Ruck'n'Roll
            Ego alta, ergo ictus
            • Nov 2003
            • 3990

            Plugger was a straight up bidding war, like Buddy and DirtyKurt - with varying amounts of "Swans are a special team" statements.
            Barry Hall wasn't quite like that, he desperately wanted to get our of Melbourne and Plugger convinced him that anonymity was possible.

            Paul Williams, and Stewie Maxfield were in their prime, Roos, Osborne and Bradshaw less so. Most of the others that ended up high quality, weren't there when they came: Richards, Kennedy, Mummy, Jolley, Craig Bolton.

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            • i'm-uninformed2
              Reefer Madness
              • Oct 2003
              • 4653

              Craig Bolton remains just about my favourite value pick, in terms of what we got him for (which was SFA) vs what he became.

              I saw an interview with Nick Riewoldt after he retired where he was asked the hardest opponent to play on, and he named Bolton. Said Bolton gave him nothing, and every time he thought he had Bolton beat, an arm would slip through and spoil the ball. Described playing on him as hell.
              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                Geelong has the Costa living allowance that puts players into lucrative property deals! Very hard to beat that :-(

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8560

                  Originally posted by 707
                  Geelong has the Costa living allowance that puts players into lucrative property deals! Very hard to beat that :-(
                  The "Costa living allowance".....that's beautiful!

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6480

                    Still no like button

                    I like it ????
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • caj23
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2462

                      Have we got any highly rated academy picks this year? They seem to be the only first round picks we don’t stuff up

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                      • BRS328
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Feb 2018
                        • 356

                        The art of recruiting is just as much as what you do after the 1st round, or more to the point the top 10, which for obvious reasons have not been available to the Swans for the past decade

                        I would suggest Chad Warner, Rowbottom, Hayward, Papely, Reid, Gulden, Rampe, Parker, McInerny, Tom McCarin, Armartey, Paddy McCartin, Fox, and Lloyd are good examples of astute recruiting. Through In Dawson who did the dirty on the Swans, none of the above mentioned were first round picks.

                        It is not just the recruiting staff that makes the decision, the coaches, go home factors etc are all part of the process.

                        Seems like a very good effort to me!

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6480

                          Giannis Calls Out Reporter In HEATED Response: "There's No Failure In Sports" - YouTube

                          a fantastic reply to how a pro athlete sees success and failure

                          very relevant to our total list management discussion.
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • stevoswan
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8560

                            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                            Giannis Calls Out Reporter In HEATED Response: "There's No Failure In Sports" - YouTube

                            a fantastic reply to how a pro athlete sees success and failure

                            very relevant to our total list management discussion.
                            Great response.....and not heated at all, rather respectful. A lesson to a lot of posters on this site, me included.

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              I saw something in McLean yesterday that makes me think he is worth a try as a key defender. He covers the ground well. He was deep in our forward line and not long after took a good mark in our defensive goal square.

                              He's not quick or good below his knees, but he competes well in the area and has to size to take the oppositions biggest forward. I think McLean looks a good one on one player in the air. He's proven quite durable as well.

                              If Paddy retires, McLean and TMac could be a way to fix our defensive KPP problems without having to get a player from the draft or trade.

                              If we do manage to recruit Himmelberg, then we can play him forward.

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                              • Blood Fever
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4050

                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                I saw something in McLean yesterday that makes me think he is worth a try as a key defender. He covers the ground well. He was deep in our forward line and not long after took a good mark in our defensive goal square.

                                He's not quick or good below his knees, but he competes well in the area and has to size to take the oppositions biggest forward. I think McLean looks a good one on one player in the air. He's proven quite durable as well.

                                If Paddy retires, McLean and TMac could be a way to fix our defensive KPP problems without having to get a player from the draft or trade.

                                If we do manage to recruit Himmelberg, then we can play him forward.
                                Interesting and optimistic thought. I reckon that he lacks the necessary athleticism and speed to be a key defender. Also, I haven't noticed Gould being quick as well.

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