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  • rickmat
    Regular in the Side
    • Mar 2018
    • 500

    Now the ugly head of Reid being injured until year!!!!

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    • Roadrunner
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2018
      • 1481

      Originally posted by rickmat
      Now the ugly head of Reid being injured until year!!!!
      What are you on about?

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      • Maltopia
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2016
        • 1556

        Originally posted by The Big Cat
        Just looking through the list of free agents as well as those coming out of contract with other clubs at the end of this year. I see no one on either list that would qualify as the "big fish" people keep raving on about who the Swans are supposedly in the market for. De Konig from Carlton would be the best of them but hardly a big fish in the sense of the Budwah or the Pluggermeister, or even the Hallster. A big fish in terms of size would be Charlie Dixon but he's getting pretty long in the tooth but would fit the bill as a well known, big bustling, forward presence. Maybe Kinnear and Horse have a bloke lined up who is in contract but will DEMAND a trade to the Swans.
        But then we would have to give up players/picks. Who could we offer that has currency that we are prepared to trade?

        A big (tall) fish that could work is Ben MacKay and turn him into a forward like his brother. Or keep as a KPD if Paddy chooses to retire.

        But he has an injury history which is worrisome.

        Naismith is dominating his league btw and is hopeful for a mid season draft call up.

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        • sharp9
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2508

          Larkey, Oscar Allen, Van Rooyen, Tom de Kooning - one of these must be gettable. Couldn’t believe we didn’t take Van Rooyen at the draft. Extraordinary decision. Worst of all Shedrick would probably have been available at our next pick.
          "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            Originally posted by sharp9
            Larkey, Oscar Allen, Van Rooyen, Tom de Kooning - one of these must be gettable. Couldn’t believe we didn’t take Van Rooyen at the draft. Extraordinary decision. Worst of all Shedrick would probably have been available at our next pick.
            It was a dumb move. We just lost Aliir and it was before we had Paddy McCartin. We didn't need an inside midfielder. And JVR can play both ends of the ground. He would have been the perfect pick.

            If there's a choice between taking roughly equal quality players, you always should take the KPP over the midfielder. Every year there are loads of inside mids available, but very few KPPs.

            I'm someone who thinks a team can be successful with a small forward line. Richmond won a premiership with only Riewwodt for a tall forward. What surprises me is that Longmire and Beatson don't agree with me on this, which makes passing up on JVR for Sheldrick all the more perplexing.

            We should send Amartey to that hamstring specialist in Germany (I think). We really need him to be durable and hold down a KPP position and not be another Sam Reid.

            I just hope that we're the ones keep Harry Himmelberg from extending his contract at GWS. He is wasted at that club.With Harry on the list next year, I would think we would smack in the middle of the premiership window.

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            • gloveski
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 1018

              Himmelberg or Doedee would be the two I would target . Would put a smile on my face to grab Doedee from the crows after how they got Dawson and held us over a barrel


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              • Scottee
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2003
                • 1585

                Originally posted by Ludwig
                It was a dumb move. We just lost Aliir and it was before we had Paddy McCartin. We didn't need an inside midfielder. And JVR can play both ends of the ground. He would have been the perfect pick.

                If there's a choice between taking roughly equal quality players, you always should take the KPP over the midfielder. Every year there are loads of inside mids available, but very few KPPs.

                I'm someone who thinks a team can be successful with a small forward line. Richmond won a premiership with only Riewwodt for a tall forward. What surprises me is that Longmire and Beatson don't agree with me on this, which makes passing up on JVR for Sheldrick all the more perplexing.

                We should send Amartey to that hamstring specialist in Germany (I think). We really need him to be durable and hold down a KPP position and not be another Sam Reid.

                I just hope that we're the ones keep Harry Himmelberg from extending his contract at GWS. He is wasted at that club.With Harry on the list next year, I would think we would smack in the middle of the premiership window.
                Maybe we had Himmelberg in mind at the time. Its the only excuse I can think of.

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                We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8560

                  Not good news on Amartey, extended layoff: Sydney Swans forward Joel Amartey out for extended period in big blow

                  "Amartey underwent scans in Sydney over the weekend which confirmed the club's initial fears.

                  The Sandringham Dragons product is expected to be ruled out until at least the Swans' mid-season bye in round 12."

                  Bummer!

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                  • Auntie.Gerald
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6480

                    Originally posted by gloveski
                    Himmelberg or Doedee would be the two I would target . Would put a smile on my face to grab Doedee from the crows after how they got Dawson and held us over a barrel


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                    How good is Dawso going !!!! Elite !
                    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8560

                      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                      How good is Dawso going !!!! Elite !
                      You sound like you're happy about it.

                      Are we supposed to be happy that we turned him into a great footballer and now he's starring for someone else after backstabbing us?

                      Seriously?

                      Read the room!

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                      • i'm-uninformed2
                        Reefer Madness
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4653

                        This is an interesting piece on the age profile we had the other night, and where our list development is still at.

                        Young Bloods shine at Gather Round

                        I have wondered if we are akin to Melbourne in 2018, who had a spectacular group of youngsters but still had a couple of list gaps. For example, in the prelimnary final they got smashed in by West Coast (who went on to win the flag) their key defenders were Oscar McDonald and Sam Frost. Lever was out injured, and May only crossed later that off season.

                        We've got Mills, Heeney and Paps as that elite middle core, then the group of boom youngsters. But we still need a quality KPF partner for Logan down front (which is why we all hope Amartey can get himself right), and we're light down back. Plus, a neat small forward to partner Paps would be nice.

                        I largely think our midfield group will mature nicely, but you always need to add quality in there and every now and then they shows signs of physical immaturity.
                        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                        • Blood Fever
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4050

                          Excellent post. Let's hope we emulate the Demons success with a few additions to our list. And hang on to all our young guns.

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                          • Southern Swan15
                            Warming the Bench
                            • May 2010
                            • 203

                            Originally posted by Maltopia
                            But then we would have to give up players/picks. Who could we offer that has currency that we are prepared to trade?

                            A big (tall) fish that could work is Ben MacKay and turn him into a forward like his brother. Or keep as a KPD if Paddy chooses to retire.

                            But he has an injury history which is worrisome.

                            Naismith is dominating his league btw and is hopeful for a mid season draft call up.
                            Ben Mckay's injury history makes Sam reid look like a 22 game a year player... pass

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                            • Southern Swan15
                              Warming the Bench
                              • May 2010
                              • 203

                              Originally posted by stevoswan
                              You sound like you're happy about it.

                              Are we supposed to be happy that we turned him into a great footballer and now he's starring for someone else after backstabbing us?

                              Seriously?

                              Read the room!
                              Well said

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                              • The Big Cat
                                On the veteran's list
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 2356

                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                If there's a choice between taking roughly equal quality players, you always should take the KPP over the midfielder. Every year there are loads of inside mids available, but very few KPPs.
                                Not according to Paul Roos. If a midfielder is not up to it they can play other positions. If a KKP is a bust then you finish up with another Lewis Johnson or another Brett O’Farrell.
                                Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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