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  • Dow
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2022
    • 861

    Originally posted by Blood Fever
    In your humble opinion
    Yes definitely that lol ???? Grundy and Adam’s are the standouts but you could argue there best football is behind them

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    • Blood Fever
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 4052

      Problem with our medical team? Please explain your inside info.

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      Originally posted by Dow
      Yes definitely that lol ???? Grundy and Adam’s are the standouts but you could argue there best football is behind
      True but could be very useful in new environment. Supposedly great mates as well.

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6483

        Originally posted by stevoswan
        HHK....at VFL level averaging 14.5 disposals, 2.3 tackles and 65 Fantasy points per game over his 30 games. Mmmmm.....hardly setting the world on fire.

        Having said that, whenever I saw the VFL Swans highlights, I liked the look of him.
        Doesn’t Issac Heeney do 15.3 disposals and 4.3 tackles at Senior AFL level in a similar spot on the field? With even more chance to get the footy with a % in the midfield to contribute to goal assists and or hands on the ball?

        Ps I don’t see a role for HHK in Snr footy though. But somewhat like for like stat comparison?
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • BRS328
          Warming the Bench
          • Feb 2018
          • 371

          Agree with you Blood Fever, and the important thing is it does not break the bank in terms of salary cap. Even better we retain a strong draft hand to continue the development process.
          Collingwood and Brisbane have both showed the benefit of depth, and this is something we were exposed by this season

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          • Auntie.Gerald
            Veterans List
            • Oct 2009
            • 6483

            Agree Nobles and Adams and McStay missing out on a GF and or final series is so different to Roberts, Sheldrick and or Ladhams

            It is literally LA to NY city apart
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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            • Dow
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2022
              • 861

              Originally posted by Blood Fever
              Problem with our medical team? Please explain your inside info.

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              True but could be very useful in new environment. Supposedly great mates as well.
              I think I will trust try and see the positive in it and hope gets us where we want to go.

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8576

                Originally posted by Dow
                Hope they know what they are doing ? Some ordinary players in that lot
                Typical optimism....

                Who should we have got.....Dow? ....and who else out of available potential trades?

                We have obtained a gun ruckman, a Magpie clearance beast who should have been a premiership player this year and two other premiership players FFS. I think we've done well and these players will make a difference.
                Last edited by stevoswan; 8 October 2023, 05:19 PM.

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                • Blood Fever
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4052

                  Originally posted by Dow
                  I think I will trust try and see the positive in it and hope gets us where we want to go.
                  Fair call....there are always 'fingers crossed' in these situations. Both Copeland trophy winners so here's hoping for their best.

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                  • stevoswan
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8576

                    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                    Doesn’t Issac Heeney do 15.3 disposals and 4.3 tackles at Senior AFL level in a similar spot on the field? With even more chance to get the footy with a % in the midfield to contribute to goal assists and or hands on the ball?

                    Ps I don’t see a role for HHK in Snr footy though. But somewhat like for like stat comparison?
                    Well, that's two extra tackles per game and his stats are at AFL level, not VFL....and I did say I like the look of HHK. I agree Heeney is a frustrating player and if he doesn't get his @@@@ together this season and fully deliver on his obvious talent, he's open to trading at season's end.

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                    • Thunder Shaker
                      Aut vincere aut mori
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4231

                      Inside Trading: Roos' offer for Blue, Swans load up, stars emerge at Combine (afl.com.au)
                      Discusses Adams, Grundy, Hamling and Jordon. Mentions pick 23 as a "central plank" to land trade deals, says trading pick 11 is "unlikely".
                      "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                      • i'm-uninformed2
                        Reefer Madness
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4653

                        I think it’s good that the Swans have now officially got their hands on Hamling, and plan not to play him - even in the NEAFL - till concedes just how much cheating went on in the 2016 GF. His weeping press conference, pleading shame, on Driver Avenue at 11am Tuesday should be a doozy.
                        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                        • Ruck'n'Roll
                          Ego alta, ergo ictus
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3990

                          Originally posted by stevoswan
                          Typical optimism....
                          Who should we have got.....Dow? ....and who else out of available potential trades?
                          We have obtained a gun ruckman, a Magpie clearance beast who should have been a premiership player this year and two other premiership players FFS. I think we've done well and these players will make a difference.
                          The and sarcasm don't add much to the discussion.

                          As for Adams: Some of the confidently unequivocal assertions being made may not be enitirly measured.
                          Four pages ago Adams was being lauded for his skilled delivery - yet the Collingwood fans regarded him as a ball butcher (those opinions predate his decision to fly north). And now I read from you he's a clearance beast, but I thought the Maggots recruited Mitchell because they had a clearance problem? So I have no idea about Adams, He may prove to be recruiting masterstroke, or provide depth, or he may suffer a string of injuries. So I took a look at some stats: Taylor Adams and James Rowbottom AFL Stats Comparison

                          FWIW - I wonder whether Adams' big contribution might be his wealth of experience in roving to a shiny new AA ruckman Grundy - maybe shortcut the time it takes to learn to read this taps etc. etc.
                          Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 8 October 2023, 09:22 PM.

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                          • Captain
                            Captain of the Side
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3602

                            Wow now Adams. This is amazing news!

                            Grundy and Adams are genuine A graders.

                            Hamling and Jordan are solid depth additions.

                            If we can pull this off, huge improvement to our list.

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              I can't reproach Longmire for going all out for a premiership next year. I'm sure he wants another one in the bag before his contract runs out. There is also the dismal thought that the Giants may surpass us as the number 1 AFL team in Sydney unless we do something fast. I'm happy to change my mindset and support Longmire and the rest of the Swans brain trust in their endeavor to do whatever necessary to push the Swans to the top of the table asap.

                              I think we've done very well to get Grundy, Adams, Jordon and Hamling. All are best 22 capable players. It may mean that some of my favourite youngsters will lose their spots on our team list, but so be it. Maybe they can find greener and more patient pastures in another valley.

                              I hope our new group of players stays healthy and takes us to the promised land. The club has my full support in what they've done. They saw an opening to change course, and went for it. I didn't see it coming. If anyone else did on here, they were keeping it secret. Now that it's just about done, I can only stand and applaud. Well done guys.

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                Interesting that we picked up two ex Collingwood players (Grundy and Adams).

                                Now are they from an average midfield (under Buckley), or a gun midfield (under Fly). ?

                                I'm optimistic.

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