2010 team......lets have a go !!

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  • hammo
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2003
    • 5554

    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
    well after seeing Rohan, Jetta, Reid, Sumner, D-L join on for 2010 it has thrown my predictions of possies.......having a 20 and a 21 yr old in the mix for 2010 and also having out right wing and forward speed what starts in 2010 could be massively different......IF the speed men hit their stuff !!

    F: Bradshaw, White, D-L

    HF: Jack, Goodes, Hannebery

    Midfield: Rok, Mumford, Kirk, Bolton, McVeigh, McGlynn(tagging)

    HB: Malceski, Bolton, Shaw

    B: Mattner, RLT, Richards


    Bench: Seaby, Bird, Kennedy, Vespa?...........


    man this is killing as there are too many that all have equal opportunity
    No "Tag"?
    "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6483

      aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

      F: Bradshaw, White, D-L

      HF: Jack, Goodes, Hannebery

      Midfield: Rok, Mumford, Kirk, Bolton, McVeigh, McGlynn(tagging)

      HB: Tag, Bolton, Shaw

      B: Mattner, RLT, Richards


      Bench: Seaby, Bird, Kennedy, Malceski...........
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • DST
        The voice of reason!
        • Jan 2003
        • 2705

        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        yep that forward pocket spot for me is by far the hardest to work out who will get a chance..........good call re Johnston but not sure we can carry 4 talls out of 6 at the big fields to start a game?? ie White, Goodes, Bradshaw and Johnston.......I could be wrong but we would need speed running off them to push forward and keep possession.......Roo's said Adam, White and Big Guns are up front for 2010

        the clear recruitment strategy of flankers and forwards joining especially a 20yr old and a 21 yr old show that we are after an injection of speed for 2010 seniors footy and hopefully we dont wait.....Jetta very much a player running wide of the ruck

        I believe Hannebery should get a chance to keep his momentum going most likely at HF flank......let him roll !
        Still see Goodes spending a lot of time in the midfield playing as a floater forward or behind the ball.

        That would leave White, Bradshaw and either Johnston or TDL as the third tall option.

        One thing is for sure we have options next year and no player is a walk up start which is good for palyer development as they fight for spots. We struggled last year for compertition for spots in the starting 22.
        "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16787

          Originally posted by DST
          no player is a walk up start
          I suspect DBM Goodes, Bs 1&2, Captain Kirk, Bradshaw, Rhino and McVeigh might have something to say about that!

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          • BRISWAN
            Warming the Bench
            • Aug 2005
            • 304

            B Bolton ????? Jack
            Hb Malceski Grundy Kennelley
            C Mattner Kirk Shaw
            Hf Johnston White Goodes
            F Vespa Bradshaw Mcglynn

            Foll Seaby Mcveigh Okeefe

            Int Mumford Hannebury Jude

            Take Your Pick Of....
            Barlow, Bevan, Bird, Campbell, Currie, Jetta, Kennedy, Lrt, Meredith, Moore, Richards, Rohan, Smith. (???pyke)

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            • Aaron
              Regular in the Side
              • Jan 2009
              • 805

              The more experienced players should have a go in the first round and so my choice will be from the following 25( including emergency) in the following format:
              Name, Career Games, Age today
              Goodes, Adam 252 29
              O'Keefe, Ryan 186 28
              Bolton, Jude 233 29
              Kirk, Brett 217 33
              Shaw, Rhyce 96 28
              McVeigh, Jarrad 123 24
              McGlynn, Ben 44 24
              Mattner, Martin 144 27
              Kennedy, Josh 13 21
              Bradshaw,Daniel222 31
              Richards, Ted 119 26
              Bolton, Craig 194 29
              Tadhg Kennelly 158 28
              Grundy, Heath 46 23
              Roberts-Thomson119 26
              Jack, Kieren 47 22
              Bird, Craig 36 20
              Barlow, Ed 25 22
              Bevan, Paul 108 25
              Moore, Jarred 48 23
              Smith, Nick 13 21
              Mumford,Shane 21 23
              Malceski, Nick 68 25
              Seaby, Mark 102 25
              White, Jesse?@?@ 20 21
              It is still a relative young team, the average is 25 with 6 of age 22 or under.

              If some of them do not perform, then they will be replaced by younger guys. The new players may need time to develop. There is no need to rush all the young guys in. However, in the Finals (Yes or round 22!), I expect at least the following should be in the mix replacing some out of form or injured older players :
              Hannebery,
              Dennis-Lane,
              Jetta,

              With unpreditable injuries and form, it is all a guessing thing.

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              • Hartijon
                On the Rookie List
                • May 2008
                • 1536

                My Starting super quick Swans team 2010.


                FF: Jack Bradshaw White

                HF: D-L Goodes O'Keefe

                c: Jetta Kirk Bird

                HB: Shaw LRT Tagh

                FB: Mattner Bolton C. Grundy


                Followers: Mumford, Bolton J, Mac Veigh

                Bench: Seaby, Hannebery,Vespremi, Smith

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                • Bloody Hell
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3085

                  B: Smith Bolton LRT/Richards

                  HB: Kennelly Grundy Mattner

                  C: McVeigh Kirk Shaw (I think in reality Mattner and Shaw will be opposite...but this is how I'd have them.)

                  HF: Malcheski Goodes Jack

                  F: White Bradshaw Dennis-Lane

                  R: Mumford J.Bolton O'Keefe

                  INT: Currie/Seaby Bird Meredith Hannebury

                  That bench is very young...we'll see their direction.

                  That's an honest attempt, and I can't see it being too wrong for round 1.The bold represent tough decisions that will have to be made after the preseason. Dennis-Lane was recruited for a specific role, that has been filled by a variety of players who haven't excelled there - so presumibly he will be there round one.

                  Alot of competition for the bench spots - and alot of guys facing a make or break season -such as Moore.

                  For other guys time is probably with them....but it would be in their best interest to show something this season -

                  Bevan - ATM looks like he will be going the way of Ablett
                  Barlow - Will probably get time.
                  Malcheski - 2 years post op...had an encouraging preseason.


                  And the guys who I'm expecting to step up to the next level this season -

                  White - we all are.
                  Grundy - Would like to see him mentioned with other up and coming key defenders...seems to have it in him.
                  Last edited by Bloody Hell; 5 December 2009, 07:17 PM.
                  The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16787

                    Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                    That's an honest attempt, and I can't see it being too wrong for round 1.

                    That is a bold statement,

                    I reckon we start with 38 fit and firing senior listed players. Heath, Rohan, Sumner and Reid are practically no chance for round 1. I'd be loathe to label any of the rest as having no chance until we've seen them play pre-season games. So that is 34 players to pick 22 from. And I wouldn't completely rule out rookie-listed Gordon from staking a claim either.

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                    • Bloody Hell
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3085

                      Originally posted by liz
                      That is a bold statement,

                      I reckon we start with 38 fit and firing senior listed players. Heath, Rohan, Sumner and Reid are practically no chance for round 1. I'd be loathe to label any of the rest as having no chance until we've seen them play pre-season games. So that is 34 players to pick 22 from. And I wouldn't completely rule out rookie-listed Gordon from staking a claim either.
                      Don't think it's that bold...think it's quite conservative TBH.

                      Considering the way we finished last season there won't be wholesale changes, and probably only those that are forced or obvious. Jolly and MOL gone - replaced. Pyke not offering enough. Noone ever really nailed down the Forward pocket...except perhaps McVeigh....but you don't want to play him there. Kennelly back - straight in (puts pressure on defensive positions).

                      Aside from injures don't think the preseason will have alot of bearing on Round 1 - I think Roos will force those in contention to prove themselves, and let the incumbents retain their positions....he does have a history of this.

                      The only thing I think is contentious is Dennis-Lane in the pocket. As I said - he was recruited for this purpose and I can't see Moore retaining this position ahead of him.

                      Can see all the bench spots up for grabs though...3 positions anyway, maybe two if a hard decision isn't made regarding Grundy/LRT/Richards or one if you think Bird is pretty solid....
                      Last edited by Bloody Hell; 6 December 2009, 03:46 AM.
                      The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6483

                        F: Bradshaw, White, TDL

                        HF: Jack?, Goodes, Johnston?

                        Midfield: Rok, Mumford, Kirk, Bolton, McVeigh, Hannebery?

                        HB: Tag, RLT, Shaw

                        B: Mattner, Bolton, Richards/Smith?


                        Bench: Seaby, Bird, Smith, Jetta

                        One Wing spot and one Forward Pocket spot are open big time. HFF spots are both contentious as well

                        My gut feeling is that McVeigh will start on one wing and the other wing position is wide open and will have two or three players spending minutes rotating on both wings is my guess. Jack, Jetta, Hannebery, McGlynn(tagging), Smith (Tagging) will all fight for the opening starting wing. Hannebery is a top5 at the club for 3km run and he simply needs to be allowed to keep maturing by playing Seniors....good to have a lefty on one and right footer on the other where possible....I cant believe how well Hannebery did with basically no training and 17yrs of age.....he is a natural and can play tighter early in the game and then Jetta comes on for the more open minutes

                        HF flank is so wide open - ideally I would love Jack on one HFF and a tall leading player on the other so that Goodes can push into the midfield for half his minutes......ie Johnston??? ie he ready?

                        Grundy vs Richards

                        Kennedy vs Bird
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • Hartijon
                          On the Rookie List
                          • May 2008
                          • 1536

                          I think the depth of players will enable the selectors to do very good match ups on the opposition with players of talent,getting their opportunity. After half a season of this,the team should stabilise into a regular 22-27 players who can all do the job. This is a rare and great position to be in.Check the Crows injuries so far in the pre-season. These things can really hurt but we have enough depth to cover these eventualities

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                          • RogueSwan
                            McVeigh for Brownlow
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4602

                            Originally posted by RogueSwan
                            My attempt:

                            B: Smith, B2, Shaw
                            HB: Mattner, Hyphen, Richards

                            C: McVeigh, Hannerbery, Pebbles

                            HF: Jack (defensive forward), Goodes, Moore
                            F: Vespa, White, Seaby

                            R:Mumford, Kirk, B1

                            Int: Grundy, Bird, Kennedy, Barlow or Malceski (whoever looks better in the practise matches)

                            Very unlucky: Meredith and MOD, would happily swap them for any in the starting 22 if they show they are better.
                            I still like the look of this line up. Pull Moore out, switch Vespa to HF and put Bradshaw in at F.
                            Swap Seaby to the bench otherwise the F's will be to tall. Bird can take his starting place.
                            This leaves:
                            B: Smith, B2, Shaw
                            HB: Mattner, Hyphen, Richards

                            C: McVeigh, Hannerbery, Pebbles

                            HF: Jack (defensive forward), Goodes, Vespa
                            F: Bradshaw, White, Bird

                            R:Mumford, Kirk, B1

                            Int: Grundy,Seaby, Kennedy, Barlow or Malceski or Tadhg

                            I find it hard to believe that Richards will not be in the 22. Especially considering he has played just every game since joining the Swans.

                            I think the team needs to have all of B2, LRT, Richards and Grundy (3 on field, 1 recovering on the bench) to cover the oppositions talls. This leaves Smith to cover a small forward and Shaw/Mattner/Malceski/(maybeTadhg ) to provide the rebound.

                            In the middle Mumford and Seaby choose themselves along with Cap'n and B1. Kennedy and Bird are their replacements. Even though I have Bird starting forward he won't play there unless that is where the ball is. McVeigh, Hanners and Pebbles will play around the ruck all game, possibly resting in the forwards.

                            Vespa, Goodes and Kizza (Jack?) will play between the ball and the forwards. Leaving Bradshaw and White to kick 184 between them for the season.

                            Simple.

                            Apologies to Tadhg, Barlow, McGlynn, Meredith, MOD, Moore, Thornton. I would like to fit you in but where???
                            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                            • Hartijon
                              On the Rookie List
                              • May 2008
                              • 1536

                              Originally posted by RogueSwan
                              I still like the look of this line up. Pull Moore out, switch Vespa to HF and put Bradshaw in at F.
                              Swap Seaby to the bench otherwise the F's will be to tall. Bird can take his starting place.
                              This leaves:
                              B: Smith, B2, Shaw
                              HB: Mattner, Hyphen, Richards

                              C: McVeigh, Hannerbery, Pebbles

                              HF: Jack (defensive forward), Goodes, Vespa
                              F: Bradshaw, White, Bird

                              R:Mumford, Kirk, B1

                              Int: Grundy,Seaby, Kennedy, Barlow or Malceski or Tadhg

                              I find it hard to believe that Richards will not be in the 22. Especially considering he has played just every game since joining the Swans.

                              I think the team needs to have all of B2, LRT, Richards and Grundy (3 on field, 1 recovering on the bench) to cover the oppositions talls. This leaves Smith to cover a small forward and Shaw/Mattner/Malceski/(maybeTadhg ) to provide the rebound.

                              In the middle Mumford and Seaby choose themselves along with Cap'n and B1. Kennedy and Bird are their replacements. Even though I have Bird starting forward he won't play there unless that is where the ball is. McVeigh, Hanners and Pebbles will play around the ruck all game, possibly resting in the forwards.

                              Vespa, Goodes and Kizza (Jack?) will play irsts.between the ball and the forwards. Leaving Bradshaw and White to kick 184 between them for the season.

                              Simple.

                              Apologies to Tadhg, Barlow, McGlynn, Meredith, MOD, Moore, Thornton. I would like to fit you in but where???
                              Why has Tadgh got a 2 year contract if not to go straight into the firsts. He WILL be a top 22 starter as will Barlow and maybe Moore.

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6483

                                you can do it .........Liz !



                                22 players !

                                you can do it
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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