2010 team......lets have a go !!
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F: Bradshaw, White, D-L
HF: Jack, Goodes, Hannebery
Midfield: Rok, Mumford, Kirk, Bolton, McVeigh, McGlynn(tagging)
HB: Tag, Bolton, Shaw
B: Mattner, RLT, Richards
Bench: Seaby, Bird, Kennedy, Malceski..........."be tough, only when it gets tough"
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yep that forward pocket spot for me is by far the hardest to work out who will get a chance..........good call re Johnston but not sure we can carry 4 talls out of 6 at the big fields to start a game?? ie White, Goodes, Bradshaw and Johnston.......I could be wrong but we would need speed running off them to push forward and keep possession.......Roo's said Adam, White and Big Guns are up front for 2010
the clear recruitment strategy of flankers and forwards joining especially a 20yr old and a 21 yr old show that we are after an injection of speed for 2010 seniors footy and hopefully we dont wait.....Jetta very much a player running wide of the ruck
I believe Hannebery should get a chance to keep his momentum going most likely at HF flank......let him roll !
That would leave White, Bradshaw and either Johnston or TDL as the third tall option.
One thing is for sure we have options next year and no player is a walk up start which is good for palyer development as they fight for spots. We struggled last year for compertition for spots in the starting 22."Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"
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B Bolton ????? Jack
Hb Malceski Grundy Kennelley
C Mattner Kirk Shaw
Hf Johnston White Goodes
F Vespa Bradshaw Mcglynn
Foll Seaby Mcveigh Okeefe
Int Mumford Hannebury Jude
Take Your Pick Of....
Barlow, Bevan, Bird, Campbell, Currie, Jetta, Kennedy, Lrt, Meredith, Moore, Richards, Rohan, Smith. (???pyke)Comment
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The more experienced players should have a go in the first round and so my choice will be from the following 25( including emergency) in the following format:
Name, Career Games, Age today
Goodes, Adam 252 29
O'Keefe, Ryan 186 28
Bolton, Jude 233 29
Kirk, Brett 217 33
Shaw, Rhyce 96 28
McVeigh, Jarrad 123 24
McGlynn, Ben 44 24
Mattner, Martin 144 27
Kennedy, Josh 13 21
Bradshaw,Daniel222 31
Richards, Ted 119 26
Bolton, Craig 194 29
Tadhg Kennelly 158 28
Grundy, Heath 46 23
Roberts-Thomson119 26
Jack, Kieren 47 22
Bird, Craig 36 20
Barlow, Ed 25 22
Bevan, Paul 108 25
Moore, Jarred 48 23
Smith, Nick 13 21
Mumford,Shane 21 23
Malceski, Nick 68 25
Seaby, Mark 102 25
White, Jesse?@?@ 20 21
It is still a relative young team, the average is 25 with 6 of age 22 or under.
If some of them do not perform, then they will be replaced by younger guys. The new players may need time to develop. There is no need to rush all the young guys in. However, in the Finals (Yes or round 22!), I expect at least the following should be in the mix replacing some out of form or injured older players :
Hannebery,
Dennis-Lane,
Jetta,
With unpreditable injuries and form, it is all a guessing thing.Comment
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My Starting super quick Swans team 2010.
FF: Jack Bradshaw White
HF: D-L Goodes O'Keefe
c: Jetta Kirk Bird
HB: Shaw LRT Tagh
FB: Mattner Bolton C. Grundy
Followers: Mumford, Bolton J, Mac Veigh
Bench: Seaby, Hannebery,Vespremi, SmithComment
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B: Smith Bolton LRT/Richards
HB: Kennelly Grundy Mattner
C: McVeigh Kirk Shaw (I think in reality Mattner and Shaw will be opposite...but this is how I'd have them.)
HF: Malcheski Goodes Jack
F: White Bradshaw Dennis-Lane
R: Mumford J.Bolton O'Keefe
INT: Currie/Seaby Bird Meredith Hannebury
That bench is very young...we'll see their direction.
That's an honest attempt, and I can't see it being too wrong for round 1.The bold represent tough decisions that will have to be made after the preseason. Dennis-Lane was recruited for a specific role, that has been filled by a variety of players who haven't excelled there - so presumibly he will be there round one.
Alot of competition for the bench spots - and alot of guys facing a make or break season -such as Moore.
For other guys time is probably with them....but it would be in their best interest to show something this season -
Bevan - ATM looks like he will be going the way of Ablett
Barlow - Will probably get time.
Malcheski - 2 years post op...had an encouraging preseason.
And the guys who I'm expecting to step up to the next level this season -
White - we all are.
Grundy - Would like to see him mentioned with other up and coming key defenders...seems to have it in him.Last edited by Bloody Hell; 5 December 2009, 07:17 PM.The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.Comment
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That is a bold statement,
I reckon we start with 38 fit and firing senior listed players. Heath, Rohan, Sumner and Reid are practically no chance for round 1. I'd be loathe to label any of the rest as having no chance until we've seen them play pre-season games. So that is 34 players to pick 22 from. And I wouldn't completely rule out rookie-listed Gordon from staking a claim either.Comment
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That is a bold statement,
I reckon we start with 38 fit and firing senior listed players. Heath, Rohan, Sumner and Reid are practically no chance for round 1. I'd be loathe to label any of the rest as having no chance until we've seen them play pre-season games. So that is 34 players to pick 22 from. And I wouldn't completely rule out rookie-listed Gordon from staking a claim either.
Considering the way we finished last season there won't be wholesale changes, and probably only those that are forced or obvious. Jolly and MOL gone - replaced. Pyke not offering enough. Noone ever really nailed down the Forward pocket...except perhaps McVeigh....but you don't want to play him there. Kennelly back - straight in (puts pressure on defensive positions).
Aside from injures don't think the preseason will have alot of bearing on Round 1 - I think Roos will force those in contention to prove themselves, and let the incumbents retain their positions....he does have a history of this.
The only thing I think is contentious is Dennis-Lane in the pocket. As I said - he was recruited for this purpose and I can't see Moore retaining this position ahead of him.
Can see all the bench spots up for grabs though...3 positions anyway, maybe two if a hard decision isn't made regarding Grundy/LRT/Richards or one if you think Bird is pretty solid....Last edited by Bloody Hell; 6 December 2009, 03:46 AM.The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.Comment
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F: Bradshaw, White, TDL
HF: Jack?, Goodes, Johnston?
Midfield: Rok, Mumford, Kirk, Bolton, McVeigh, Hannebery?
HB: Tag, RLT, Shaw
B: Mattner, Bolton, Richards/Smith?
Bench: Seaby, Bird, Smith, Jetta
One Wing spot and one Forward Pocket spot are open big time. HFF spots are both contentious as well
My gut feeling is that McVeigh will start on one wing and the other wing position is wide open and will have two or three players spending minutes rotating on both wings is my guess. Jack, Jetta, Hannebery, McGlynn(tagging), Smith (Tagging) will all fight for the opening starting wing. Hannebery is a top5 at the club for 3km run and he simply needs to be allowed to keep maturing by playing Seniors....good to have a lefty on one and right footer on the other where possible....I cant believe how well Hannebery did with basically no training and 17yrs of age.....he is a natural and can play tighter early in the game and then Jetta comes on for the more open minutes
HF flank is so wide open - ideally I would love Jack on one HFF and a tall leading player on the other so that Goodes can push into the midfield for half his minutes......ie Johnston??? ie he ready?
Grundy vs Richards
Kennedy vs Bird"be tough, only when it gets tough"
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I think the depth of players will enable the selectors to do very good match ups on the opposition with players of talent,getting their opportunity. After half a season of this,the team should stabilise into a regular 22-27 players who can all do the job. This is a rare and great position to be in.Check the Crows injuries so far in the pre-season. These things can really hurt but we have enough depth to cover these eventualitiesComment
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My attempt:
B: Smith, B2, Shaw
HB: Mattner, Hyphen, Richards
C: McVeigh, Hannerbery, Pebbles
HF: Jack (defensive forward), Goodes, Moore
F: Vespa, White, Seaby
R:Mumford, Kirk, B1
Int: Grundy, Bird, Kennedy, Barlow or Malceski (whoever looks better in the practise matches)
Very unlucky: Meredith and MOD, would happily swap them for any in the starting 22 if they show they are better.
Swap Seaby to the bench otherwise the F's will be to tall. Bird can take his starting place.
This leaves:
B: Smith, B2, Shaw
HB: Mattner, Hyphen, Richards
C: McVeigh, Hannerbery, Pebbles
HF: Jack (defensive forward), Goodes, Vespa
F: Bradshaw, White, Bird
R:Mumford, Kirk, B1
Int: Grundy,Seaby, Kennedy, Barlow or Malceski or Tadhg
I find it hard to believe that Richards will not be in the 22. Especially considering he has played just every game since joining the Swans.
I think the team needs to have all of B2, LRT, Richards and Grundy (3 on field, 1 recovering on the bench) to cover the oppositions talls. This leaves Smith to cover a small forward and Shaw/Mattner/Malceski/(maybeTadhg ) to provide the rebound.
In the middle Mumford and Seaby choose themselves along with Cap'n and B1. Kennedy and Bird are their replacements. Even though I have Bird starting forward he won't play there unless that is where the ball is. McVeigh, Hanners and Pebbles will play around the ruck all game, possibly resting in the forwards.
Vespa, Goodes and Kizza (Jack?) will play between the ball and the forwards. Leaving Bradshaw and White to kick 184 between them for the season.
Simple.
Apologies to Tadhg, Barlow, McGlynn, Meredith, MOD, Moore, Thornton. I would like to fit you in but where???"Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017Comment
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I still like the look of this line up. Pull Moore out, switch Vespa to HF and put Bradshaw in at F.
Swap Seaby to the bench otherwise the F's will be to tall. Bird can take his starting place.
This leaves:
B: Smith, B2, Shaw
HB: Mattner, Hyphen, Richards
C: McVeigh, Hannerbery, Pebbles
HF: Jack (defensive forward), Goodes, Vespa
F: Bradshaw, White, Bird
R:Mumford, Kirk, B1
Int: Grundy,Seaby, Kennedy, Barlow or Malceski or Tadhg
I find it hard to believe that Richards will not be in the 22. Especially considering he has played just every game since joining the Swans.
I think the team needs to have all of B2, LRT, Richards and Grundy (3 on field, 1 recovering on the bench) to cover the oppositions talls. This leaves Smith to cover a small forward and Shaw/Mattner/Malceski/(maybeTadhg ) to provide the rebound.
In the middle Mumford and Seaby choose themselves along with Cap'n and B1. Kennedy and Bird are their replacements. Even though I have Bird starting forward he won't play there unless that is where the ball is. McVeigh, Hanners and Pebbles will play around the ruck all game, possibly resting in the forwards.
Vespa, Goodes and Kizza (Jack?) will play irsts.between the ball and the forwards. Leaving Bradshaw and White to kick 184 between them for the season.
Simple.
Apologies to Tadhg, Barlow, McGlynn, Meredith, MOD, Moore, Thornton. I would like to fit you in but where???Comment
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