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  • swansrob
    Senior Player
    • May 2009
    • 1265

    Vespa in the HB line next year?

    Could Pat move down back? - Official AFL Website of the Sydney Swans Football Club

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    • swansrob
      Senior Player
      • May 2009
      • 1265

      What about the possibility of developing Pyke as a tall defender? He played a lot of his rugby at full back (admittedly I don't know how much difference there is in the position over the two codes), and if he learned how and where to position that huge body of his, he would definitely be handy.

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      • reigning premier
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Sep 2006
        • 4335

        Originally posted by RogueSwan
        Weagles knew he wanted out in 08 so they weren't going to use him, hence he played in the WAFL
        That and you get the feeling there was a bit of bad blood between Seaby and the coaching panel after he asked to be traded last year.

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        • doctor swan
          On the Rookie List
          • May 2007
          • 266

          definitely with you on that, he ll be an excellent mark down at the back and he is one big unit. could be another dunks in the making just so long as he can kick better.

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          • Hartijon
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2008
            • 1536

            Originally posted by doctor swan
            definitely with you on that, he ll be an excellent mark down at the back and he is one big unit. could be another dunks in the making just so long as he can kick better.
            I'd like to see him burst packs.That's something we haven't seen for a while.Who was the last big man to regularly do that? Rene Kink? Paul Kelly did it a few times. Pyke could hit a pack with speed ,collapse it and take off with the ball.So far we have seen no aggression from him just complete committment to the game plan.He must be a pleasure to coach.

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            • Bloody Hell
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2006
              • 3085

              B: Smith Bolton Richards

              HB: Kennelly Grundy Mattner

              C: Kennedy Kirk Malcheski

              HF: Meredith Goodes Jack

              F: White Bradshaw McVeigh

              R: Mumford J.Bolton O'Keefe

              INT: Currie Bird Vespremi Hannerbery

              Emg: LRT Shaw Moore



              I know Shaw will be in the starting team...just not a fan of his head!

              The most interesting selection across the whole season is going to be the 2 half back flanks. 4 very impressive players vying for the same position.

              Tadgh and Malcheski (when fit) have proven themselves to be amongst the best in the league, Shaw had a great year last year and IMO Mattner is the best defender of the 4...by some margin.

              I expect to see the forward line function much in the way it did at the end of last year, with Bradshaw being swapped for Micky O.

              Bradshaw and White will lead from the square with Goodes playing the lead up forward in the role previously filled by ROK. Both the FF's are used to playing that role (with MOL and Brown respectively) so it shouldn't take long for them to get their mojo happening.

              Big defenders - probably 2 of Richards, LRT and Grundy will be selected meaning one will be depth. I hope Grundy continues.

              Picking the team makes you realise the bad year we had last year will be an anomoly. If all remain fit, many players who don't deserve it will be spending alot of time in Canberra. Good season ahead.
              The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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              • Bloody Hell
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2006
                • 3085

                Originally posted by liz
                Goodes
                Kirk
                Bolton
                Bolton
                O'Keefe
                McVeigh
                LRT
                Two rucks
                Shaw

                I reckon that injury apart, those are the guaranteed round one picks.

                Plus Mattner and Jack would probably have to have horrid pre-seasons not to be there.

                Otherwise, I reckon it is relatively open for most spots in the team.
                Why LRT? I wouldn't have him as a certainty...didn't he miss some games towards the end of last year?

                I think you could safely add Bradshaw, probably White and now Kennelly to that list....half the team certainties.
                The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                • caj23
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2462

                  Originally posted by sWAns63
                  Pyke looked pretty good as a backup ruck last year in his 1st season we haven't even seen Mummford, Seaby & Currie play for us Christ Seaby couldn't even get a gig with WCE 1st team as a backup.
                  Pyke has to be in the mix.
                  Originally posted by swansrob
                  What about the possibility of developing Pyke as a tall defender? He played a lot of his rugby at full back (admittedly I don't know how much difference there is in the position over the two codes), and if he learned how and where to position that huge body of his, he would definitely be handy.
                  Originally posted by doctor swan
                  definitely with you on that, he ll be an excellent mark down at the back and he is one big unit. could be another dunks in the making just so long as he can kick better.
                  Originally posted by Hartijon
                  I'd like to see him burst packs.That's something we haven't seen for a while.Who was the last big man to regularly do that? Rene Kink? Paul Kelly did it a few times. Pyke could hit a pack with speed ,collapse it and take off with the ball.So far we have seen no aggression from him just complete committment to the game plan.He must be a pleasure to coach.
                  I'm not sure if you were watching the same games I was last year, but on exposed form, Seaby and Mumford are both well ahead of Pyke. Seaby is not a star by any stretch of the imagination, but I think he will suprise alot of people by being a competent ruckman at AFL level who is handy around the ground.

                  We basically played 1 man down in every game that Pyke played as his positioning and game sense were non-existant. Don't get me wrong as he exceeded expectations in his first season, but if Pyke is playing seniors next year then we are in trouble.

                  As for playing him in the backline, that is simply not going to happen. Any forward worth their chop will have a day out on him. His disposal and decision making is not up to speed and in modern footy attacks need to start from the backline.

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                  • Vonsteinman
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 366

                    Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                    Why LRT? I wouldn't have him as a certainty...didn't he miss some games towards the end of last year?

                    I think you could safely add Bradshaw, probably White and now Kennelly to that list....half the team certainties.
                    LRT has missed one game in two seasons.

                    Bradshaw isn't guaranteed as he's not yet on the list.

                    Kennelly has a fair bit of work to do, but I hope you're right in assuming he'll get over the line...

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                    • Bloody Hell
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3085

                      Originally posted by Vonsteinman
                      LRT has missed one game in two seasons.
                      I meant go missing.

                      I think his last couple were good games as Grundy was stepping up and freed him up alot, but towards the middle-end went a bit flat.
                      The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                      • g60
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 22

                        any chance we could develope mr currie into a kp backman instead of a top up ruck? he needs to do something this yr, or he will be left behind.

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                        • Triple B
                          Formerly 'BBB'
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 6999

                          Originally posted by g60
                          any chance we could develope mr currie into a kp backman instead of a top up ruck?....
                          Nup, no chance.

                          He is not a 'top up' ruck either, but he's still just a boy. He's a bona fide ruckman cum pinch hit forward.
                          Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6483

                            well after seeing Rohan, Jetta, Reid, Sumner, D-L join on for 2010 it has thrown my predictions of possies.......having a 20 and a 21 yr old in the mix for 2010 and also having out right wing and forward speed what starts in 2010 could be massively different......IF the speed men hit their stuff !!

                            F: Bradshaw, White, D-L

                            HF: Jack, Goodes, Hannebery

                            Midfield: Rok, Mumford, Kirk, Bolton, McVeigh, McGlynn(tagging)

                            HB: Malceski, Bolton, Shaw

                            B: Mattner, RLT, Richards


                            Bench: Seaby, Bird, Kennedy, Vespa?...........


                            man this is killing as there are too many that all have equal opportunity
                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • DST
                              The voice of reason!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2705

                              Can't see any of the new guys being round 1 starters next year.

                              Possibly Jetta as he is more mature and has that pace we are looking for or the DL if thet went with him over Johnston but he is looking fit and ready to push for senior selection.

                              DST
                              "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6483

                                yep that forward pocket spot for me is by far the hardest to work out who will get a chance..........good call re Johnston but not sure we can carry 4 talls out of 6 at the big fields to start a game?? ie White, Goodes, Bradshaw and Johnston.......I could be wrong but we would need speed running off them to push forward and keep possession.......Roo's said Adam, White and Big Guns are up front for 2010

                                the clear recruitment strategy of flankers and forwards joining especially a 20yr old and a 21 yr old show that we are after an injection of speed for 2010 seniors footy and hopefully we dont wait.....Jetta very much a player running wide of the ruck

                                I believe Hannebery should get a chance to keep his momentum going most likely at HF flank......let him roll !
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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