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  • hot potato
    Sir Ashmole Gruntbucket
    • Jun 2007
    • 1122

    That seems a pretty fair take on it Koala, but 11 weeks goes pretty quick, to have him there at the pointy end of the season will be cool.
    "He was proud of us when we won and he was still proud of us when we lost' Tami Roos about Paul Sept 06.

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    • Far Reach
      On the Rookie List
      • Mar 2010
      • 69

      Post 2084 & 2085 are spot on

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      • Far Reach
        On the Rookie List
        • Mar 2010
        • 69

        Post 2804 & 2805 are spot on

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        • Xie Shan
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2929

          Originally posted by Ludwig
          You can get caught twice taking drugs and not cop any sanction, cause harm to another player on the field and get off lightly, but if you don't understand all the nuances of what is meant by draft tampering you could see your career come to an end.
          This in particular does seem bizarre. He got more weeks than what Bazza got for his hit on Staker. But they seem to make things up as they go along these days. Anyone wanna go halves and buy the AFL with me, I reckon we could do a better job...

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          • MattW
            Veterans List
            • May 2011
            • 4218

            Originally posted by Ludwig
            The AFL statement says:

            Kurt Tippett is:
            8. Suspended from participating in the pre-season competition 2013 and for 22 home and away matches of AFL football in the 2013 premiership season on the basis that the final 11 home and away matches of the suspension are suspended for a period of five years

            It doesn't say anything about reserves games. Can we assume that he can play in the ressies based on this statement?
            I just asked Patrick Keane about this on Twitter. His reply: 'He is suspended from all levels of play'.
            Last edited by MattW; 30 November 2012, 10:13 PM.

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            • Bloody Hell
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2006
              • 3085

              Originally posted by annew
              If he comes to the swans no Tippett for Adelaide game in Adelaide as that is round 11
              Wouldn't be surprised if that was the determining factor in the length of the ban.
              The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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              • Industrial Fan
                Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                • Aug 2006
                • 3318

                What penalty did his agent get?
                He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                • R-1
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1042

                  Re: Tippett?

                  Think that is the AFLPA's call

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    A couple times in my life I have sat down and fully read all the fine print in a very long agreement in front of a bank employee before signing it, like when opening a new account. And they looked at me as if this was the strangest thing that they had ever seen. I asked a few questions about certain clauses, which they could not answer without calling a bank official who was not available, and probably never would be. How many times are we confronted with long legal statements we are asked to accept, basically without reading or questioning, and just do it, because everyone just does it!

                    I am sure many on here have bought or sold property, had a lawyer, and just signed where the lawyer said to sign.

                    Football players, like the rest of us, especially those with managers, just sign where they are told to sign.

                    Can you just see a football player reading his contract '......is in compliance with paragraph 4.7, sub-paragraph b as amended on 12 June 1998........ etc. etc. '. You must be joking. But this is what Vlad now expects footballers to be fully compliant with. Most will only be able to train twice a week, as they will have to attend law school the rest of the time. I doubt that more than 50 players in AFL, Tippett obviously being one of them, could sustain this long a suspension, be out of contract, and not find that it was the end to their career.

                    Furthermore, I don't think the Dangerfield and Van Berlo off contract payments have been resolved yet and may still be under investigation. If charges are laid on those accounts, I wonder what kind of suspensions those players will get. We all know there are many such payments out there at many clubs. I wonder what kind of precedent is being set here.

                    I hadn't thought about it much before this Tippett case, but the management of the AFL are really looking like a bunch of amateurs. There's a lot of fixing up to do behind the scenes at HQ.

                    And finally, I don't think losing Tippett for 11 weeks is so bad, and perhaps the Swans' management are actually pleased about it, as it might further discourage GWS from taking him, and he doesn't have to play the Crows in Adelaide, and several other benefits concerning giving opportunities to other players in the first half of the season.

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      Originally posted by O'Reilly
                      I just asked Patrick Keane about this on Twitter. His reply: 'He is suspended from all levels of play'.
                      Well, that's a pretty stiff penalty then. Now it annoys me even more.

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                      • jono2707
                        Goes up to 11
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3326

                        Originally posted by Big Al
                        The guys who are charged with upholding this culture believe that Tippett will fit in with the club. While you're certainly entitled to your view I think I'll stick with the opinions of those in charge of the Reigning Premiers. (I try to use that term at least once a day),
                        Whilst I really do trust our recruiting staff to do the right thing, and his potential teammates seem alright with KT, I just think all of the developments in this whole case must have caused quite a bit of umming and ahhing internally at the Swans. We obviously made a choice to go after KT quite some time ago, but the goalposts have moved a heck of a lot since it became clear we'd likely land him. It would be really interesting to hear what the Club's take on their dealings with not so much KT, but his manager and his father.

                        As I said, I'm good with it if it's what my club wants. It would just be really really interesting to hear how it has been dealt with at the Swans - I guess I'll just have to wait for the mini-series to hit tv....

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                        • Bexl
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 817

                          If he has 11weeks suspended does this mean that if he does for a week for striking the other 11weeks are activated?

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                          • DamY
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1479

                            Tippett?

                            You would think that the penalty would be deactivated should he reoffend for the same crime. I'm no lawyer but that is what my understanding is of suspended sentences are.

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              Originally posted by Bexl
                              If he has 11weeks suspended does this mean that if he does for a week for striking the other 11weeks are activated?
                              I believe it only applies if he violates the same rules he was convicted of this time.

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                              • unconfuseme
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 681

                                well done AFL ... at last they stand up and recognise that the player must always be complicit in the fraud!

                                The onus is on him to ensure that he understands what his adviser was saying ... I assume that he has an avenue to appeal this otherwise? ... if not, he should accept it and get on with his career.

                                These elite young players have been "under management" from about age 14, and they and/or their parents fully understand precisely what their contracts are worth, when they expire, and if they include anything "unusual".

                                Once again, the AFL differentiates itself from the farce that is NRL ... see the penalties imposed on the Melbourne Storm salary cap cheats ... NOTHING! ... they not only retained the cash, never missed a game, but STILL believe that they are the rightful premiers, even having been stripped of their titles ... now that is a farce, and the outcome had absolutely no deterrent value whatsoever.

                                After these penalties, who will be the next AFL player to try and cheat the salary cap?

                                Kudos AFL!

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