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  • Dosser
    Just wild about Harry
    • Mar 2011
    • 1833

    Josh Mahoney from Melbourne was just interviewed on SEN. Andy Maher specifically asked about Nick Smith and Josh replied that they had been speaking to Sydney and other clubs about a number of players, but Smith's name has never been brought up. He then went on to describe the sort of player they are looking for and described Parker down to the bootstraps.

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    • robamiee
      Regular in the Side
      • Sep 2005
      • 688

      Why would trade Parker when we just resigned him...I think it is Melb throwing out lines in the pond to see what fish takes a nibble....

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      • Matt80
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Sep 2013
        • 1802

        In this new free agency era, you will see clubs looking to move players on before free agency forces them to lose a player for limited compensation or have to pay a lot more to keep them! If the Hawks had moved Franklin on after 2012, they would be in a better position! The new rule for clubs with 25 year olds could become, sign an extension or we will aggressively trade you out with one year left on your contact! I don't know about Nick Smiths contract, but if he hits free agency, the swans will be in a weaker condition!

        Free agency would have easily delivered ROK to the Hawks at the end of 2008!

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        • Dosser
          Just wild about Harry
          • Mar 2011
          • 1833

          Originally posted by robamiee
          Why would trade Parker when we just resigned him...I think it is Melb throwing out lines in the pond to see what fish takes a nibble....
          He didn't mention any names at all, just described the sort of player they are looking for. My paranoia did the rest.

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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            Originally posted by Dosser
            He didn't mention any names at all, just described the sort of player they are looking for. My paranoia did the rest.
            Afl.com has them interested in Myers

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            • Industrial Fan
              Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
              • Aug 2006
              • 3318

              Nick Smith would be one of the most underrated players in the competition. Even the rookie listed Rampe gets more kudos than him in the media. Not only are they trying to rebuild their team they are trying to get bums on seats. Whether or not he is rated by external coaches (which I am sure he is) - Melbourne would need a 'big fish' with pick two and Smith is not it.

              I would rather trade Parker than Smith, but would also much prefer to keep them both.
              He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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              • Zlatorog
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2006
                • 1748

                I couldn't help myself, but not trying to devise the worst case scenario with regards the Buddy deal and the trading period for the Swans.
                If the AFL plans to punish the Swans for snatching Buddy from GWS, which is very possible, they can wait with their approval of the deal till 18th, leaving the Hawks to respond with their right to match the offer until 21st. That leaves Sydney in a serious limbo, because the Swans will be limit in time that is left for trading (until 25th). I hope the recruitment is ready to face that possibility.

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                • Doctor
                  Bay 29
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2757

                  Originally posted by Zlatorog
                  I couldn't help myself, but not trying to devise the worst case scenario with regards the Buddy deal and the trading period for the Swans.
                  If the AFL plans to punish the Swans for snatching Buddy from GWS, which is very possible, they can wait with their approval of the deal till 18th, leaving the Hawks to respond with their right to match the offer until 21st. That leaves Sydney in a serious limbo, because the Swans will be limit in time that is left for trading (until 25th). I hope the recruitment is ready to face that possibility.
                  This won't happen. Franklin is off to Ireland with Goodesy and the rest of the Indigenous team on Thursday and I strongly suspect all concerned (including the AFL) will want it sorted before he leaves.
                  Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                  • ShockOfHair
                    One Man Out
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 3668

                    I'm sure the delay in approving the deal is at least partly cosmetic. It will get done though.
                    The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                    • erica
                      Happy and I know it
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1247

                      Originally posted by ShockOfHair
                      I'm sure the delay in approving the deal is at least partly cosmetic. It will get done though.
                      The AFL people are probably just staring at the contract, hoping it will magically change from "Sydney Swans" to "GWS Giants" in front of their eyes.
                      All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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                      • magic.merkin
                        Senior Player
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1199

                        Honestly IMHO regardless if the contract dooms us or not, the AFL can't be seen to be interfering in contracts based on possible future scenarios for one club. If the contract is within the games laws and the swans did their own due diligence in coming up with it over an extended period of time. I'd expect legal action would be the result if they were to deny it. Thoughts?

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                        • Jewels
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3258

                          Originally posted by magic.merkin
                          Honestly IMHO regardless if the contract dooms us or not, the AFL can't be seen to be interfering in contracts based on possible future scenarios for one club. If the contract is within the games laws and the swans did their own due diligence in coming up with it over an extended period of time. I'd expect legal action would be the result if they were to deny it. Thoughts?
                          Yep completely agree. The Swans wouldn't have submitted this deal without checking that every i was dotted, every t crossed and every cent accounted for. I don't believe the AFL will either hinder or delay it as too many other deals by both us and other clubs would hinge on the outcome of the Buddy deal and as for having a fire sale of players to accomodate his wage, considering this deal has been in the pipeline for a year, I would therefore assume Buddys wage was taken into account when so many of our premiership stars were re-signed during the year.

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            An interview with the Melbourne list manager said they are talking about pick 2 with the Swans, Smith's name not mentioned.

                            Dunno how we could possibly do that deal given the already parlous state of our experienced numbers.

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                            • Ruck'n'Roll
                              Ego alta, ergo ictus
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3990

                              Originally posted by ShockOfHair
                              I'm sure the delay in approving the deal is at least partly cosmetic. It will get done though.
                              Just another fit of pique from of Fat Andy, he really hates it when he doesn't get what he wants. Perhaps he'll ask the MRP to re-examine Buddy's high bump on Mal, and then suspend our newly recruited forward for half a season. . . . .

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                              • Nich
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2010
                                • 1291

                                Originally posted by 707
                                An interview with the Melbourne list manager said they are talking about pick 2 with the Swans, Smith's name not mentioned.

                                Dunno how we could possibly do that deal given the already parlous state of our experienced numbers.
                                Without sounding dramatic - if the Club has a player that might want to leave and/or a player in a position the Club feels they have surplus of - for the benefits of fielding a strong team into the future, anything is up as an option.

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