2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[RogueSwan]

... and somewhere between -3 and 8 rucks.

What kind of blasphemy is this?

We will always have between 3 and 8 ruckmen, regardless of what I say.

...

Maybe the minus was intentional?

[Ruck'n'Roll]

We actually traded all four Danihers to Essendon for Neville Foulds (complete with two buggered knees). "Neil Daniher told me this in person".

Neville Fields

I presume you’re kidding? We traded Terry & Neil (the latter sight unseen) to Essendon for Neville Fields before the 1978 season. Fields returned to the Bombers a couple of years later.
Anthony started with South in 1981 and made the move to Sydney, staying with the Swans until 1986. Chris was approached by the Bombers ahead of the 1986 season and made his debut the following year after Anthony joined his brothers.

Is it just me or does everyone else that was around at the time, spit three times when mentioning the name of Des Tuddenham? ptuh, ptuh, ptuh

[KTigers]

Resign Zak Jones
Watching Heppell, Parish, Shiel absolutely butcher the ball, Zak is every bit as good as them and wont cost as much

What has happened to Shiel? He used to be good. A friend who is a long time Bombers supporter tells me at their games now
in Melbourne there is a very audible collective sigh from all the Bombers faithful every time he misses his umpteenth target
for the game.

[barry]

What has happened to Shiel? He used to be good. A friend who is a long time Bombers supporter tells me at their games now
in Melbourne there is a very audible collective sigh from all the Bombers faithful every time he misses his umpteenth target
for the game.

I was thinking that last night. Not many ex-Giants have gone on to be great players, and quite a few of them were better when they were at the giants. Maybe Leon Cameron is not as bad a coach as everyone thinks.

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Goddard to old,
Parish is good, cant believe how bad Essendon stars were with disposal.

But how good was Jetta's disposal. He's my favourite ex-swan player.

Speaking of ex-players, is Rowan playing in tonights final ?

[ugg]

What has happened to Shiel? He used to be good. A friend who is a long time Bombers supporter tells me at their games now
in Melbourne there is a very audible collective sigh from all the Bombers faithful every time he misses his umpteenth target
for the game.

I don't think anything has happened to him per se, his kicking has always been questionable. Playing in a star studded GWS midfield it was easier for him to get into space and be under less pressure, and have less kicking errors. However to be one of the main men at the Dons, he's not afforded the same luxury and his deficiencies start to stand out.

[bloodspirit]

Jetta has always been a beautiful kick and a great character and I miss him. Wish he had never left us. But Rohan is my favourite ex Swan still playing, even though he's a lesser player. Gave his all for us for many years. Top bloke.

[Ralph Dawg]

Resign Zak Jones
Watching Heppell, Parish, Shiel absolutely butcher the ball, Zak is every bit as good as them and wont cost as much

I agree in so much that we should try and match any offer he gets from elsewhere within reason. If he just wants out, nothing much we can do about that.

[Ralph Dawg]

We have a good best 22, able to match it with any team in the league.

Just need to develop a bit more depth and be able to cover our injuries better. Or not have any like the Lions, who pretty much have every listed player available this weekend.

[707]

What has happened to Shiel? He used to be good. A friend who is a long time Bombers supporter tells me at their games now
in Melbourne there is a very audible collective sigh from all the Bombers faithful every time he misses his umpteenth target
for the game.

Paid big for him too :-) He's always looked such a nice mover that maybe we overlooked his poor disposal? Probably looked better too at GWS because he was surrounded by A grade talent, more exposed in the Bombers midfield. (Edit - just saw your similar response Ugg)

[Plugger46]

Shiel has always been the same. Good player but he butchers it. I just think people didn't watch as much of GWS.

[KSAS]

Is it just me or does everyone else that was around at the time, spit three times when mentioning the name of Des Tuddenham? ptuh, ptuh, ptuh

Ah yes Des Tuddenham was coach that year (1978) when we traded Terry & Neil to the Bombers. He took over from Ian Stewart who just coached us to the finals the year before (1977) and then returned after Tuddy was sacked to be our final senior coach at the Lakeside Oval. They were weird times as Stewart coached Carlton in between only to resign after a few games because of ill health. Jezza then took over as Capt/Coach and Carlton went on to win the flag in 1979. All sorts of rumours was floating around at the time as to what was happening in the background to all this. No one at South ever put their hand up to being responsible for the Danihers/Fields trade, but suspect Tuddy had a lot to do with it being the former Capt/Coach of Essendon after leaving the Pies.

I met Neville Fields in the late 80's who was playing cricket for Essendon in the VJCA (along with Denis Pagan) and sharing a beer after a day's play some of our guys cheekily raised his trade with the Danihers. Fields said his best football years was with South, which does gets overlooked as i do recall him playing many fine games for us. He was a beautiful left foot kick who could kick long goals on the run, just like Mark Browning (both played together).

[111431]

Ah yes Des Tuddenham was coach that year (1978) when we traded Terry & Neil to the Bombers. He took over from Ian Stewart who just coached us to the finals the year before (1977) and then returned after Tuddy was sacked to be our final senior coach at the Lakeside Oval. They were weird times as Stewart coached Carlton in between only to resign after a few games because of ill health. Jezza then took over as Capt/Coach and Carlton went on to win the flag in 1979. All sorts of rumours was floating around at the time as to what was happening in the background to all this. No one at South ever put their hand up to being responsible for the Danihers/Fields trade, but suspect Tuddy had a lot to do with it being the former Capt/Coach of Essendon after leaving the Pies.

I met Neville Fields in the late 80's who was playing cricket for Essendon in the VJCA (along with Denis Pagan) and sharing a beer after a day's play some of our guys cheekily raised his trade with the Danihers. Fields said his best football years was with South, which does gets overlooked as i do recall him playing many fine games for us. He was a beautiful left foot kick who could kick long goals on the run, just like Mark Browning (both played together).

you are right about neville Fields - he was a great player for us when we had very little. Unfortunately it was a short period of time and the Daniher legacy lived on forever. Maybe it will turn full circle in the next 12 months

[Blood Fever]

South have dished out some bad trades too. John Pitura to Richmond, Graham Teasdale, Brian Roberts, Francis Jackson and $40,000 to South Melbourne.

Worst AFL trades ever

Fair call. Pitura didn't fire a shot at Tigers.

[S.S. Bleeder]

What has happened to Shiel? He used to be good. A friend who is a long time Bombers supporter tells me at their games now
in Melbourne there is a very audible collective sigh from all the Bombers faithful every time he misses his umpteenth target
for the game.

Shiel was good when he was surrounded by other elite mids. That is no longer the case.

[S.S. Bleeder]

I was thinking that last night. Not many ex-Giants have gone on to be great players, and quite a few of them were better when they were at the giants. Maybe Leon Cameron is not as bad a coach as everyone thinks.

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But how good was Jetta's disposal. He's my favourite ex-swan player.

Speaking of ex-players, is Rowan playing in tonights final ?

We need to be realistic about Jetta. He did very little for us other than that one very good year in 2012. His kicking is elite but he's lazy. That's why he has spent a lot of time in the WAFL.