2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[707]

Wow, doubt they’ll be hanging onto all of those. At least 3-4 would be after a handy pay rise. Perhaps Chol could be gettable after all. He’s been on a rookies list for 4 year, I reckon 400k a year over 3-4 years would get his attention!

Reckon there's a lot of players getting unders at Richmond just to play in a contending side.

[i'm-uninformed2]

The thing with new kids vs Ronke, Gray etc is that these kids apply pressure and make tackles.

Ronkes lack of goals doesnt bother me as much as his lack of contest and its not.like he makes up for that with ball in hand

This. And not Ronke specific. I’m not sure he shies at the contest, but the lack of defensive pressure from him, Gray and Taylor bugs me no end.

Papley applies more and that’s after all his offensive efforts.

What’s weirder about Ronke is he did the two way thing well in his first year but has dropped off.

[Melbourne_Blood]

Don't agree with that... Ronke should be kept.

On his 2018 form, absolutely. On everything since then, It’s hard to make a case for him ( injuries not withstanding ). Didn’t hit the scoreboard in his 3 games this year ( at all, no goals or behinds ) and was a shadow last year of his 2018 self. I’m not confident he has a future at AFL level to be honest.


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[MattW]

On his 2018 form, absolutely. On everything since then, It’s hard to make a case for him ( injuries not withstanding ). Didn’t hit the scoreboard in his 3 games this year ( at all, no goals or behinds ) and was a shadow last year of his 2018 self. I’m not confident he has a future at AFL level to be honest.


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He's played 34(!) career games and yet hasn't developed any composure. He snatches at the ball and kicks poorly.

[stevoswan]

I like Ronke but I am also tending to think he's now on the wrong side of the delisting ledger.

Although I think his late 2019 form was closer to his early career form (in effort at least), this year has done him no favours. Along the way, I have also doubted he has the ability to consistently deliver at this level.

As someone stated earlier, it was always going to be hard for Ben to live up to that seven goal breakout game.....

[Melbourne_Blood]

I like Ronke but I am also tending to think he's now on the wrong side of the delisting ledger.

Although I think his late 2019 form was closer to his early career form (in effort at least), this year has done him no favours. Along the way, I have also doubted he has the ability to consistently deliver at this level.

As someone stated earlier, it was always going to be hard for Ben to live up to that seven goal breakout game.....

Don’t forget the 10 tackles! Doubt anyone will ever do that again.


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[MattW]

Don’t forget the 10 tackles! Doubt anyone will ever do that again.


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Parker recorded 12 against Collingwood two weeks ago.

(But yes, Ronke's closing speed was incredible that night. Seriously, what happened?!)

[Melbourne_Blood]

2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

Parker recorded 12 against Collingwood two weeks ago.

(But yes, Ronke's closing speed was incredible that night. Seriously, what happened?!)

I meant the 7 goals + 10 tackles. That never happens and probably never will.

But yes , what happened indeed ! He needs to watch that replay 5000 time’s over and remember what he is capable of when he is on !

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[MattW]

I meant the 7 goals + 10 tackles. That never happens and probably never will.

But yes , what happened indeed ! He needs to watch that replay 5000 time’s over and remember what he is capable of when he is on !

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Ah right, sorry.

I looked up Buddy, out of interest (since 2014, @@@@ what he did for Hawthorn). His closest to that is 6 goals and 6 tackles against Collingwood in 2018.

I was interested to note Buddy made 7 tackles in the 2016 GF, which I don't recall noticing previously. Not bad with bung ankle.

Other stats which interested me from that game: Kennedy 34 disposals (Rohan 5); Tippett 17 hitouts (Naismith 21 - their rucks were Jordan Roughead and Tom Boyd!).

[dejavoodoo44]

Ah right, sorry.

I looked up Buddy, out of interest (since 2014, @@@@ what he did for Hawthorn). His closest to that is 6 goals and 6 tackles against Collingwood in 2018.

I was interested to note Buddy made 7 tackles in the 2016 GF, which I don't recall noticing previously. Not bad with bung ankle.

Other stats which interested me from that game: Kennedy 34 disposals (Rohan 5); Tippett 17 hitouts (Naismith 21 - their rucks were Jordan Roughead and Tom Boyd!).

Though the only stat that most of us remember from that game, is the one that went: Bulldogs 20, Swans 8.

[mattybloods]

Paddy McCartin looking at getting back to an AFL club next year. Let's recruit him and draft Papley's brother so both Tom's will stay


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[Blood Fever]

Though the only stat that most of us remember from that game, is the one that went: Bulldogs 20, Swans 8.

Was 20-4 before a few late cheapies

[Mark26]

Richmond have ruckmen Soldo, Nankervis and Coleman-Jones in addition to Chol. One of those is bound to go. From their POV, I would trade out Nankervis, but for us, Chol looks to best.

We're probably in a position to throw some money at him if we're keen. Perhaps having Aliir at the club could also be a selling point. Chol is contracted for 2021, but as you pointed out, Richmond are in a tough spot and they may let go of the player who wants to leave.

Chol and Ladhams are both worth pursuing. If we can find our next #1 ruckman this post season, and it's someone who can play straight away and be around for the next 8 to 10 years, we can start being a top 8 competitor next year, if injuries don't wreak the season.

I don't us going after another ruckman, but only after we've giving our boys a test first. If Amartey or Knoll are ready, I'd bring one in now. I know Sinkers played his best game in the ruck for some time, but I don't know if he's our future ruckman. After Amartey and Knoll have had a crack (injuries permitting) then I'd wholeheartedly go after another ruckman like Chol.

[Blood Fever]

I don't us going after another ruckman, but only after we've giving our boys a test first. If Amartey or Knoll are ready, I'd bring one in now. I know Sinkers played his best game in the ruck for some time, but I don't know if he's our future ruckman. After Amartey and Knoll have had a crack (injuries permitting) then I'd wholeheartedly go after another ruckman like Chol.

Chol got monstered in the ruck last game. Very good young player but not sure if he is a pure ruckman. Incredibly agile and athletic for his size but gets pushed around a bit in the ruck.

[Captain]

Though the only stat that most of us remember from that game, is the one that went: Bulldogs 20, Swans 8.

Yep, am still annoyed at that.

We also had some decent ruckmen back then - Tippo, Sinclair, Naismith and Nank!