2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • stevoswan
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2014
    • 8543

    Originally posted by troyjones2525
    I think Ladhams could flourish into a good #1 ruckman, a bit of a Mumford type if we give him the chance. McLean IMO is really not the savour going forward as even a key forward. With the players we have on our list, I feel he should become depth, similar to Sinclair now. I would much prefer Amarty to become our future relief ruckman/forward behind Ladhams as our main ruck long term.

    Hickey should get the opportunity to start next year but if Ladhams shows more then so be it. Big Tom will go the way of Sinkers and become good depth...

    Yes Port are obviously shopping him but they are obviously confident in their other young ruck to perhaps be even better! We don't have that luxury! All we really have right now as a genuine ruck is Hickey, Sinclair, a sadly broken down Naismith (who could have been anything...) and McAndrew who on what limited vision I've seen looks extremely clumsy and lacking basic skills... not a lot there to be honest for a team pushing for a flag in the next few years.

    I say have a crack at Ladhams, give him the opportunity he wants to lead the ruck division and hopefully it becomes another Mummy like success story!
    What an up and down post.....glass half full, them half empty with a sort of lack of faith in big Tommy H, followed by a bit more half empty then ending with more half full .....but I agree with most of it.

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    • Ralph Dawg
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2018
      • 1729

      I'd rather we save our cash and invest in a young ruckman eg Conway. Ruck division of Hickey, Sinclair, McLean, Amartey, McAndrew and Conway will be fine. With so many talented young guys requiring new contracts in the next few years, we are going to need every last dollar to keep them and imo, Ladhams is not worth 400k + a year. Clearly Port agree with me.

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8543

        Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
        I'd rather we save our cash and invest in a young ruckman eg Conway. Ruck division of Hickey, Sinclair, McLean, Amartey, McAndrew and Conway will be fine. With so many talented young guys requiring new contracts in the next few years, we are going to need every last dollar to keep them and imo, Ladhams is not worth 400k + a year. Clearly Port agree with me.
        Yet they want a first rounder!!

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        • Jimitron5000
          Warming the Bench
          • Oct 2006
          • 455

          Originally posted by stevoswan
          Yet they want a first rounder!!
          It does seem a little bit over the top to be actively shopping someone around whilst demanding a high draft pick for him!

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          • Ralph Dawg
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2018
            • 1729

            Originally posted by stevoswan
            Yet they want a first rounder!!
            They're just trying their luck. Clearly they rate him as their third best ruck and behind Finlayson as a forward, which really is not saying much for 2m Pete.

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            • 707
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2009
              • 6204

              I'm getting more nervous, looks like Cows aren't even talking to us any more

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              • Syd76
                Warming the Bench
                • Jul 2019
                • 200

                Originally posted by 707
                I'm getting more nervous, looks like Cows aren't even talking to us any more
                Why do you say that?

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                • Aprilbr
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 1803

                  Originally posted by 707
                  I'm getting more nervous, looks like Cows aren't even talking to us any more
                  There is nothing to suggest a total breakdown in negotiations. The Swans would have been professional and clear in their discussions with Adelaide. They will have left no doubt about what will get the deal done for JD. The ball is now in Adelaide's court to meet our demands or a fair compromise as JD's management don't want to risk him walking him to the PSD. In the meantime, we should be doing our best to work on Port and, of course, any other possible deals.

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                  • Bangalore Swans
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Mar 2021
                    • 1049

                    I want Rory Lobb. No Ladams. He likes Sydney, why not the Swans.

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                    • Ralph Dawg
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 1729

                      Originally posted by Aprilbr
                      There is nothing to suggest a total breakdown in negotiations. The Swans would have been professional and clear in their discussions with Adelaide. They will have left no doubt about what will get the deal done for JD. The ball is now in Adelaide's court to meet our demands or a fair compromise as JD's management don't want to risk him walking him to the PSD. In the meantime, we should be doing our best to work on Port and, of course, any other possible deals.
                      Correct me if I'm wrong, but if JD wants to go to the crows, then he can refuse all other options and go via PSD if willing to take the chance?

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                      • goswannies
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3048

                        Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                        Correct me if I'm wrong, but if JD wants to go to the crows, then he can refuse all other options and go via PSD if willing to take the chance?
                        No correction needed.

                        Just runs the risk of someone else picking him with the 1st PSD picks ahead of the Crows

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                        Originally posted by 707
                        I'm getting more nervous, looks like Cows aren't even talking to us any more
                        In any other circumstance not talking to anything Crows would be ok

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                        • Bangalore Swans
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Mar 2021
                          • 1049

                          Put down the Dawson phone.

                          Get Lobb from Fremantle. Always liked him as a player. Why can’t we prize him away from the Giants like 2013 with Buddy.

                          This is the most exciting prospect on the market in my opinion.

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                          • goswannies
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3048

                            Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                            I want Rory Lobb. No Ladams. He likes Sydney, why not the Swans.
                            I like Melbourne. Wouldn’t touch anything Collingwood.

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                            Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                            Put down the Dawson phone.

                            Get Lobb from Fremantle. Always liked him as a player. Why can’t we prize him away from the Giants like 2013 with Buddy.

                            This is the most exciting prospect on the market in my opinion.
                            Honestly, the player actually has to want to come. This isn’t fantasy footy.

                            Buddy wanted to come to us. Far as I can tell, Bud never wanted to got to GW$ (understandably). Lobb was from GW$.

                            And it’s prise not prize (unless you think we’re winning him away from Freo)
                            Last edited by goswannies; 7 October 2021, 06:08 PM.

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                            • Ralph Dawg
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 1729

                              Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                              I want Rory Lobb. No Ladams. He likes Sydney, why not the Swans.
                              I think Rory wants to coexist with Covid rather than hide under the doona in WA. Must be missing his end of season trips to Bali ????????
                              Speaking of Covid matters, will be interesting to see what will happen if McGowan continues his Covid zero approach whilst SA and the eastern states open up, even with high infection numbers. Might necessitate Freo and Weagles being based out of WA to get around ongoing restrictions at the WA border.

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                              • Syd76
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Jul 2019
                                • 200

                                Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                                Put down the Dawson phone.

                                Get Lobb from Fremantle. Always liked him as a player. Why can’t we prize him away from the Giants like 2013 with Buddy.

                                This is the most exciting prospect on the market in my opinion.
                                He is avearge. NOT WORTH 700K

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