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  • Ruck'n'Roll
    Ego alta, ergo ictus
    • Nov 2003
    • 3990

    Originally posted by royboy42
    I just watched an interview with Beatson recorded prior to last year's (Campbell, Gulden, McDonald ) draft.
    His thinking is quite awesome, almost prophetic, as it needs to be.
    We work around the top 30% of the draft process on here, be cause that is as far as our limited knowledge and resources permit.
    And that's terrific, the reason the forum exists.
    But the recruiters have second, third, fourth and fifth options all sorted.
    As many of the 'what ifs' as possible are presorted.
    The whole thing is fascinating.
    Can you send a link please royboy?

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      Originally posted by Aprilbr
      It could also mean that the Swans told them that they did not want this year's number 17 but were interested in a similar pick next year as they preferred to use the draft pick then due to more certainty around the potential of draft picks. This year's draft is a crap shoot due to COVID.
      It would seem more likely that we told the Crows that pick 17 plus some later picks were not enough, but we were willing to take Adelaide's 2022 1st rounder in exchange for Dawson. That pick is likely to be in the top 10. The Crows would still have a 1st rounder in 2022, likely to be near the end of the round.

      This sort of deal makes sense to me. We will free up more salary cap space with Franklin's contract ending and the timing would be right to make a play for a top recruit in a trade.

      Maybe the Crows will back themselves to move up the ladder next year, so Dawson would cost them pick 23 and a drop down the order in next year's 1st round, which may seem more palatable from their point of view.

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        Originally posted by Ludwig
        It would seem more likely that we told the Crows that pick 17 plus some later picks were not enough, but we were willing to take Adelaide's 2022 1st rounder in exchange for Dawson. That pick is likely to be in the top 10. The Crows would still have a 1st rounder in 2022, likely to be near the end of the round.

        This sort of deal makes sense to me. We will free up more salary cap space with Franklin's contract ending and the timing would be right to make a play for a top recruit in a trade.

        Maybe the Crows will back themselves to move up the ladder next year, so Dawson would cost them pick 23 and a drop down the order in next year's 1st round, which may seem more palatable from their point of view.
        I really hope you are right Ludwig, I have a terrible sinking feeling right now!

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        Originally posted by Faunac8
        Interesting feedback from Sam Gray I know he didn’t exactly set the world on fire but surprising to hear nonetheless

        Gray was asked whether he received much feedback from John Longmire and Sydney’s coaching staff throughout the year.
        “Probably not as much as I would’ve liked at times,” he replied.
        To put that in a bit of context, this was when Gray was in Sydney and Longmire interstate

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        • royboy42
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2006
          • 2076

          Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
          I have it on good authority that George Hewitt and Aliir Aliir were seen sitting on the promenade at Coogee Brach this morning chatting.

          Could there be something brewing with Port and the Swans?

          I don’t know why Aliir would come to Sydney and run the risk of two week quarantine time to get back into SA?

          In any event it should say something to Dawson that Aliir bolted back to Sydney the first opportunity he got. Amazing city is Sydney.
          'On good authority' is the basis for a huge set of unrelated assumptions, none of which make any sense.
          Well, Sydney is amazing. I'll concede that.

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          • MattW
            Veterans List
            • May 2011
            • 4195

            Ooo. This would be good!

            AFL Trade Radio on Twitter: ""Adelaide's future first round pick might be on the table for Dawson."

            - Stephen Silvagni

            #AFLTrade"

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            • gloveski
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 1018

              Steve Silvagni thinks Adelaides future first might be in play now for Dawson


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              • gloveski
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 1018

                Beat me to it lol [emoji23]


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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  It would seem more likely that we told the Crows that pick 17 plus some later picks were not enough, but we were willing to take Adelaide's 2022 1st rounder in exchange for Dawson. That pick is likely to be in the top 10. The Crows would still have a 1st rounder in 2022, likely to be near the end of the round.

                  This sort of deal makes sense to me. We will free up more salary cap space with Franklin's contract ending and the timing would be right to make a play for a top recruit in a trade.

                  Maybe the Crows will back themselves to move up the ladder next year, so Dawson would cost them pick 23 and a drop down the order in next year's 1st round, which may seem more palatable from their point of view.
                  What can I say?

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                  • Bloods05
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1641

                    Originally posted by royboy42
                    Gee, that interpretation takes some imagination!
                    Is that what it is.

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                    • MattW
                      Veterans List
                      • May 2011
                      • 4195

                      Originally posted by Ludwig
                      What can I say?
                      Did you text Charlie?

                      Anyway, that would be a big win for the club. As you say, at least a top 10 pick you'd think.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Ludwig may well be right. I frickin hope so! You'd think it would be a top-ten pick

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                        • royboy42
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2076

                          Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                          Can you send a link please royboy?
                          I've had a look in my usual haunts, but can't yet put my finger on it, Rucky.
                          Getting old , because it was only this morning I saw it.
                          He was saying Gulden might be the hardest to get depending where he fell in the draft.
                          I will locate it though, and will let you know.

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                          • The Big Cat
                            On the veteran's list
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2350

                            If that's the case let's hope they win the spoon for ours, and Dawson's sake!
                            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                            • MattW
                              Veterans List
                              • May 2011
                              • 4195

                              Hmmm. Ok, if not too expensive in draft terms. Not pick 12.

                              Jon Ralph on Twitter: "Sydney is now Ladhams' preferred destination. Port open to trading him. Could get one of Sydney's early picks & give another pick back to make the deal fair. Finlayson keen to play back-up ruck and the Power have Hayes as an emerging ruck too https://t.co/3hgAyq5v8d"

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                              • 707
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6204

                                The four way pick trade that has been done means either

                                A. we are getting a future first as all or part of the trade

                                B. Cows have shut down trade talks and will just use PSD to get Dawson

                                C. If it's B we may end up accepting something unpalatable just to get a pick or two in the door rather than get nothing

                                Feeling uneasy about this now

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