2021 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Bloods05
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2008
    • 1641

    Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
    Did you get your veins to pop out of your neck and your face to be as blood shot as Barneby Joyce’s?

    Did the whole grand stand start shaking like it was 7 on the Richter scale?

    Did you walk out of the dressing room, look up at the crowd and see the grandma’s and older ladies doing high fives because finally a real man had stood up to the misguided youth of today? Did the assistant coaches avoid you like your were Darth Vader in a bad mood?

    Did the runner hide in the urinal, scared that they were next?

    These are all the KPI’s of a great local spray.
    This is getting very peculiar.

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16737

      Originally posted by Bloods05
      This is getting very peculiar.
      Not to mention totally unrelated to the topic at hand...draft and list management.

      Take any continuation of this elsewhere please.

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      • WomblingFree
        Warming the Bench
        • Sep 2021
        • 104

        Originally posted by Maltopia
        Agree. So disappointed with our first round picks that are not academy or F/S since McVeigh.

        Think Towers, Ling, Florent (ok), Lamb, Johnston, Rohan (a number 6 pick!), Vespremi, Willougby, O'Keefe.

        Jetta was a star whilst with us, and it is early days for Logan and Campbell, but really we have done far far worse than 50% success rate with our 'live' first round picks.
        There’s very little risk with our academy draftees as we’ve seen them for up to 8 years. Risk free drafting is a huge advantage

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        • lwjoyner
          Regular in the Side
          • Nov 2004
          • 942

          i wouldnt mind us recruting Rhett ruzzo . a key def at 195

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          • Ruck'n'Roll
            Ego alta, ergo ictus
            • Nov 2003
            • 3990

            Originally posted by Aprilbr
            That's a pretty big list of flops and average performers. Luckily, we have made up for that with later picks who turned into excellent midfielders eg Hanners, Parker, Hewitt, Jack together with some brilliant trades eg Kennedy, McGlynn.
            Originally posted by Maltopia
            Agree. So disappointed with our first round picks that are not academy or F/S since McVeigh.

            Think Towers, Ling, Florent (ok), Lamb, Johnston, Rohan (a number 6 pick!), Vespremi, Willougby, O'Keefe.

            Jetta was a star whilst with us, and it is early days for Logan and Campbell, but really we have done far far worse than 50% success rate with our 'live' first round picks.

            Are our top 30 picks realy signifcantly worse that other clubs? Or is it just a perception issue? I think you'd need to do a serious comparison to settle that question.

            Just to pick a single example, the much maligned Dean Towers.

            Sure he only played 57 games, which seems pretty poor for a pick #22 - but who should the Swans have taken instead? Kamdyn Mcintosh has done well at the Tigers, but the only other notable (and non Father Son / Rookie elevation) pick after Towers was Tim Membrey (who we also picked up).

            I'm not saying Towers was a great choice, but the pickings were awefully thin that year.

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            • Roadrunner
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2018
              • 1447

              We have Ronke, Bell and Clarke to finalise. Is there anyone else?
              Maybe give them 1 year if we can afford, otherwise just keep Clarke for depth.

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                Originally posted by Roadrunner
                We have Ronke, Bell and Clarke to finalise. Is there anyone else?
                Maybe give them 1 year if we can afford, otherwise just keep Clarke for depth.
                Final list lodgement before the draft will give the status of our very fringe players. Sometimes one year contracts for this type of player goes unreported.

                For those lamenting our first round draftee performance, I reckon Geelong with the supposed maestro Stephen Wells at the helm has a long list of first round flops, if someone wants to check that out and post it?

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                • Jimitron5000
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 455

                  Originally posted by WomblingFree
                  There’s very little risk with our academy draftees as we’ve seen them for up to 8 years. Risk free drafting is a huge advantage
                  It is a big advantage although we didn't use it when we drafted Abe Davis and Jack Hiscox.

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                  • 707
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6204

                    Originally posted by Jimitron5000
                    It is a big advantage although we didn't use it when we drafted Abe Davis and Jack Hiscox.
                    Reckon they were "political" in that we felt some form of obligation at that point in history to match. The Academy process is more mature now, if we think the bid is too early, we won't match. Angus Anderson a likely draftee this year either very late or rookie?

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                    • Bloods05
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1641

                      Originally posted by lwjoyner
                      i wouldnt mind us recruting Rhett ruzzo . a key def at 195
                      Sounds like something Scooby-Doo would say.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Foxports has an article: every clubs biggest issue for 2022. According to Fox, ours is for the next generation of mids to step up and take over from Parker and JPK.

                        Pretty spot on I reckon

                        AFL news 2021: Every club’s biggest issue, 2022 preview, analysis, strengths and weaknesses, list review

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                        • Aprilbr
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 1803

                          Agreed, Mark, although I would add the need to draft in a strong key defender - someone who could develop into another May from the Dees. Strong enough to nullify the gorillas from other teams but also add some intercept marking.

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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            Originally posted by Aprilbr
                            Agreed, Mark, although I would add the need to draft in a strong key defender - someone who could develop into another May from the Dees. Strong enough to nullify the gorillas from other teams but also add some intercept marking.
                            I dont recall any gorillas really taking us to the cleaners last year at all. I think this is a fictitious problem purely based on a perception of what might happen based on the height of our defensive group, not what actually did happen.

                            May is a tall intercept mark, not a wrestler. We used to have one of the best who went by the name of Allir Allir, and we sold him at the market for some trinkets.
                            Club doesnt think we need them.

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                            • Bangalore Swans
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 1049

                              Originally posted by barry
                              I dont recall any gorillas really taking us to the cleaners last year at all. I think this is a fictitious problem purely based on a perception of what might happen based on the height of our defensive group, not what actually did happen.

                              May is a tall intercept mark, not a wrestler. We used to have one of the best who went by the name of Allir Allir, and we sold him at the market for some trinkets.
                              Club doesnt think we need them.
                              Jesse Hogan in the final.

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                                Jesse Hogan in the final.
                                That Gorilla only 'monstered' us for 2 goals. It wasnt a gorilla that cost us the game, it was inaccurate forwards.

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