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  • Blood Fever
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 4040

    Unless AFL relents on roofed stadium. Unlikely I know.

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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      Originally posted by Blood Fever
      Unless AFL relents on roofed stadium. Unlikely I know.
      Gil has left the AFL one of his special @@@@ sandwiches. Tassie team will turn into a political nightmare

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      • Blood Fever
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 4040

        Agree. Very divisive issue in Tassie which is feeling the pinch economically big time.

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        • caj23
          Senior Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 2462

          Ridiculous decision to give them a team anyway, don’t have the players or population to support it. Will be a bigger drain on the league than the Giants or Suns

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Very clever by the AFL to tie granting a licence to building a roofed stadium. AFL only want the draining nuisance of a 19th team on the AFL's terms.

            If the Tasmanian guvment and general population can't get behind it then it won't fly - no deal.

            Hard to see any Tassie kid not wanting to be part of the historic first Tassie team, the AFL will ensure start up concessions sweep them all up but I reckon you just draft them and hope the 19th licence falls over. Compo will be generous for losing clubs.

            Our pick is right at the point the more certain draftees have probably been selected and the more speculative/less certain types are at the top of draft boards. In KB and Dal we trust
            Last edited by 707; 5 November 2023, 07:58 PM.

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            • Velour&Ruffles
              Regular in the Side
              • Jun 2006
              • 896

              Originally posted by KSAS
              This phantom draft has Ollie Murphy falling to us at pick 15. James Leake to the Saints at pick 17.

              AFL First Round Phantom Draft 2023 who your club could pick Harley Reid bolters sliders and more - ESPN
              I'm sure we will be much more attracted to Nick Watson at 5 foot 3.
              My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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              • wolftone57
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2008
                • 5835

                Originally posted by The Big Cat
                Waste of a spot.
                What a load of @@@@e. He was one of our best forwards last year. Our vest defensive forward with 5.4 tackles average.

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                • The Big Cat
                  On the veteran's list
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2349

                  Originally posted by wolftone57
                  What a load of @@@@e. He was one of our best forwards last year. Our vest defensive forward with 5.4 tackles average.

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                  So we rank forwards by tackles now? So Wicks is superior to Paps as a forward? And poor old Plugger and Wazza can be viewed as failures because all they did was kick goals.

                  Wicks has plenty of opportunity to tackle because he’s not impeded by having the ball in his hands.
                  Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                  • wolftone57
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 5835

                    Originally posted by The Big Cat
                    So we rank forwards by tackles now? So Wicks is superior to Paps as a forward? And poor old Plugger and Wazza can be viewed as failures because all they did was kick goals.

                    Wicks has plenty of opportunity to tackle because he’s not impeded by having the ball in his hands.
                    He was our best defensive forward. Paps had a bad year. His output was minimal and not helped by being used in the mids.

                    Wicks is a valuable member of the forward line. I am not saying he is better than Papley. Papley is one of the best forwards in the game & has been from day one.

                    Wicks was the most valuable at keeping the ball in forward 50. Paps is not that forward. Isaac, Will yes. Paps no. Paps is pure talent. Wicks has not got that but he has value. He is hard at it and keeps the ball alive in the forward 50 so Paps & others can clean up

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                    • Ruck'n'Roll
                      Ego alta, ergo ictus
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 3990

                      Originally posted by caj23
                      Ridiculous decision to give them a team anyway, don’t have the players or population to support it. Will be a bigger drain on the league than the Giants or Suns
                      Tassie has more than twice the population of Geelong, and yes that's over a wider area - but maybe it's not destined to fail for that reason.

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                      • Thunder Shaker
                        Aut vincere aut mori
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 4158

                        The draft rankings for the top 30 draft prospects have dropped on the ABC website. Caiden Cleary is ranked at 19.
                        "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6474

                          So if he was picked around pick 19

                          If we decided to use our earlier pick we n another player

                          If we decide to use approx pick 45 and 55 on Cleary and apply a 20% academy discount

                          We maybe 200pts short which would come off our first round pick in 2024?

                          Unless we do a little more shifting of picks in 2023 to bridge the gap?
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • i'm-uninformed2
                            Reefer Madness
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4653

                            Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                            The draft rankings for the top 30 draft prospects have dropped on the ABC website. Caiden Cleary is ranked at 19.
                            Well that is certainly the highest I think I've seen him.

                            Cal Twomey has certainly been suggesting there's some love around the joint for him and a mid-20s pick could be on the cards, and he's as tuned in as anyone.

                            But there's a lot of draft boards having him in the 40s. I guess it's a bit of a thing - do you focus on what he does really well, which is sweep up an absolute bucket of ground and contested balls and run all day, or focus on what he lacks, which is a bit of athleticism and hurt factor. I have to admit I went into the u18s carnival a bit more in the second camp, but watching what he does well and how consistently he played, probably fell into the first camp as I reckon there is a truism in watching juniors: if they can win contests and the ball, you can teach them other things; if they can't win contests and the ball, they ain't gonna get very far at all.

                            I do think he'll have a challenge in his first couple of years if he plays seniors, which is that he's unlikely to start right inside; so can he contribute enough otherwise. Errol had the nous and running and kicking skills to do so, Campbell had the kick and speed to play down back while he developed his tank and game. Cleary will require some patience, but I suspect he'll be worth it. And I reckon he'll benefit immensely from having Taylor Adams at the club to teach him a bit, as I don't think the fundamentals of their game are that different (although Adams at his peak was a high-end talent).
                            'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                            • BRS328
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Feb 2018
                              • 347

                              I wouldn’t put too much credence on what comes out of the ABC. Most pundits have Cleary as a late second rounder at best, and most probably a third rounder. If a club selected him at pick 19 there is a strong chance the Swans would pass.

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6474

                                i think the Swans passing would be fairly unlikely

                                But as suggested if Gulden was not valued until 32 ish.......... then you would think Cleary is more a 40ish pick unless the other options are fairly ordinary

                                the go home factor for Cleary would be significant if picked by another club which would put off most clubs besides GWS
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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