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  • UUaswan
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2024
    • 606

    Originally posted by BRS328

    While I agree with you about blooding the players you have mentioned, they will take time to develop and will be used sparingly, particularly the taller players who generally take 3 to 4 seasons to develop physically and adjust to the pace of the game.
    Ramps, Lloyd, Cunningham etc still have a role to play in the process
    The other reason to chase Lever is unfortunately Tom Mc is conservatively a month out every year now, God forbid anything "major" happens to him

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    • SwanSand
      Regular in the Side
      • Aug 2020
      • 529

      Charlie Curnow apparently interested in playing for the Suns.

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      • Thunder Shaker
        Aut vincere aut mori
        • Apr 2004
        • 4221

        Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking
        Out of the Swans Academy players, Max King is 14th. No other Sydney Academy player is listed in the top 25.
        "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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        • BFG
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2025
          • 33

          Originally posted by SwanSand
          Charlie Curnow apparently interested in playing for the Suns.
          According to the rumour monging AFL press LOL And that would be the same Suns that have a maxed out Salary Cap? More Jack Bowes style salary dumps incoming?

          AFL press make stuff up and then feed off each others self generated rumours. Curnow will go no where
          Last edited by BFG; 23 July 2025, 02:51 PM.

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          • BFG
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2025
            • 33

            Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
            Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking
            Out of the Swans Academy players, Max King is 14th. No other Sydney Academy player is listed in the top 25.
            Worth having a good read of Twomey's top 25, quite a number getting a listing on the back of what seems moderate performance against, of course, moderate opposition. Barring a strong end of year, a bid on King mid teens will be based on potential rather than performance. A bid around 14/15 will be about where our first pick will drift to after a couple of high Compo picks and certainly three GC/Bris matching bids. The rest of our academy players not rated by Twomey.

            A first round of nearly 30 significantly reduces value of second round picks depending on what picks clubs use to match early bids. It's a new world this year with the substantially watered down pick values. Plenty of scenarios will be run by club recruiters to understand the potential machinations.

            St.Kilda has been very outspoken about the northern academies, even wanting them abolished from this year's draft! They currently hold pick 4 - will they use it to back up their whinging stance by bidding on Queenslanders Uwland, Patterson and Annable?

            Only four months until the National Draft :-)

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            • Dow
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2022
              • 858

              Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
              Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking
              Out of the Swans Academy players, Max King is 14th. No other Sydney Academy player is listed in the top 25.
              From what I have seen of King I am not sure many clubs will be looking at taking him early first round, Id have him late first early second. To be honest I doubt he will make as an AFL player.

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16786

                Originally posted by BFG

                According to the rumour monging AFL press LOL And that would be the same Suns that have a maxed out Salary Cap? More Jack Bowes style salary dumps incoming?

                AFL press make stuff up and then feed off each others self generated rumours. Curnow will go no where
                It's hard to think of a less suited match.

                Suns have some highly rated academy prospects this year (again) and so won't have the draft capital to trade for Curnow.

                Their salary cap must be pretty tight, and projected to get tighter over the next few years as they need to re-sign the likes of Humphrey, Read, Walter et al.

                And speaking of Read and Walter, they don't seem to be in need of a key forward, even in the short term, with King already into the mature part of his career. Seeking out someone like Curnow would only make sense if King had indicated he wanted to leave.

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                • UUaswan
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Sep 2024
                  • 606

                  Originally posted by liz

                  It's hard to think of a less suited match.

                  Suns have some highly rated academy prospects this year (again) and so won't have the draft capital to trade for Curnow.

                  Their salary cap must be pretty tight, and projected to get tighter over the next few years as they need to re-sign the likes of Humphrey, Read, Walter et al.

                  And speaking of Read and Walter, they don't seem to be in need of a key forward, even in the short term, with King already into the mature part of his career. Seeking out someone like Curnow would only make sense if King had indicated he wanted to leave.
                  Or maybe GC is a decoy for Brissy who were talking about Oscar Allen.

                  Brissy have more immediate salary issues with older Premiership players probably not as prepared to wait their turn like the GC kids

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                  • BFG
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jan 2025
                    • 33

                    Herald Sun did an expose on clubs salary caps a few days ago. Assume their info will be close to the mark, seems to be in line with what 's been said in recent times. Movement of highly paid players can change things, like TDK $900k off Carlton cap and $1.5m+ onto Saints cap.

                    Three tiers -

                    Tight as a drum, Freo, GWS, GC, Carlton

                    Tight but still chasing, Bris, Pies, Cats LOL!, Melb, Dogs

                    Millions in cap space roughly in order of spare cash, WCE, Saints - Norf, Ess, Richmond - Hawks, Port, Crows, Swans

                    If this is accurate then we should congratulate the club in having all the key players locked in to long term contracts but still having spare cash. Grundy on the cheap with Pies picking up a reported $250k per season in their cap. It's very nice of them

                    Geelong needed a big asterix alongside their cap ranking!

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6483



                      guessing this is close to current ?

                      8 swans contracts end 2025 ? unless extended....

                      Sheldrick
                      Buller
                      Lloyd
                      Rampe

                      Yet I wonder if Florent is looking for a trade? despite contracted for a few more years.
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • Kafka's Ghost
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 911

                        Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                        Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' July ranking
                        Out of the Swans Academy players, Max King is 14th. No other Sydney Academy player is listed in the top 25.
                        In Cal’s 2020 draft form guide he didn’t have Errol in the top 20, and said Max Holmes would be a “smokey” to be inside the top 30. At this stage of a young footballer’s career it’s all pretty speculative.

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                        • BFG
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2025
                          • 33

                          Lachlan Carmichael named on field in U18 AA

                          Only nine Vic players named in the 24, record low I'd reckon. Eight named from SA the championship winners.

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                          • BFG
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jan 2025
                            • 33

                            aaaand, as expected, Charlie Curnow comes out and said he's not moving from Carlton and never even thought about it.

                            Yet another in the endless streams of trade rumours floated by the AFL media clowns to fill airwaves time and newspaper columns.

                            All our likely academy players are playing VFL against GWS this arvo.

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                            • imuninformedtwo
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Aug 2024
                              • 469

                              Apparently Gus has signed on for two more years. Good stuff.

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                              • MattW
                                Veterans List
                                • May 2011
                                • 4229

                                Originally posted by imuninformedtwo
                                Apparently Gus has signed on for two more years. Good stuff.

                                https://www.afl.com.au/news/1375520
                                Great!

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