(Not Such A) Jolly Good Trade Coming (merged Jolly trade thread)

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  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8168

    I think we should trade him if we can get what we need in return- I think Wood would be a good pickup from Brisbane or there was also talk today of Adelaide being interested and willing to give up their young ruckman cant remember his name? I think what we desperately have to find though is a fullback, we simply dont have one and we are going to drop off, but if we look to build up a solid defence which we have the foundations for then we can build back up from there. In that sense Id be happy enough if we took a punt on either Donk or one of the young blokes with Everitt if we could get a good trade.
    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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    • Cheese
      On the Rookie List
      • Aug 2007
      • 53




      good news for some, bad for others on this topic.

      keeping a quality player is my goal

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      • Donners
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2003
        • 1061

        It's funny, I was just going through my old Swans stats, and noticed in 1990 we went through Tunbridge, Barling, John, Parsons, Willis and Henwood in the ruck. Even more recently we have the likes of Feast, Sangster, Brockman, Doyle, Meiklejohn, Chambers, Mott...

        It is by no means easy getting a long-term ruckman. We may get decent compensation for Jolly, but going for a second-stringer from another club has major risks.

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        • Cheer Squad
          Sydney Swans
          • Apr 2007
          • 1948

          We need to keep Jolly

          Originally posted by Donners
          It's funny, I was just going through my old Swans stats, and noticed in 1990 we went through Tunbridge, Barling, John, Parsons, Willis and Henwood in the ruck. Even more recently we have the likes of Feast, Sangster, Brockman, Doyle, Meiklejohn, Chambers, Mott...

          It is by no means easy getting a long-term ruckman. We may get decent compensation for Jolly, but going for a second-stringer from another club has major risks.
          Totally agree. Everitt won't last long and we need Jolly as the senior ruckman for as long as possible. There have got to be other players ahead of Jolly in the trade list.

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          • thesting
            On the Rookie List
            • Sep 2007
            • 45

            I would love to see Jolly stay on our list but if his heart is not in it then he is useless to us (see GF 2006, obviously committed to the Swans, but mind elsewhere). If he truly wants to go, then lets use the value he has built up over the past 3 seasons and trade well for him.

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              Originally posted by Cheese
              http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/foo...E19742,00.html


              good news for some, bad for others on this topic.

              keeping a quality player is my goal
              I read that story on the bike at the gym this morning. Does Spida have inside knowledge we lack, and have we been gormandising on gossip? I hope he's right.
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                Or is Spida the new Iraqi Propaganda Minister...
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • AnnieH
                  RWOs Black Sheep
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 11332

                  Originally posted by dimelb
                  I read that story on the bike at the gym this morning. Does Spida have inside knowledge we lack, and have we been gormandising on gossip? I hope he's right.

                  Gormandising on gossip ... at RWO????
                  Never.
                  Ever.
                  Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                  Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                  • connolly
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 2461

                    Originally posted by NMWBloods
                    Or is Spida the new Iraqi Propaganda Minister...
                    Gotta admire Spidas skill at making the informant (himself) the story. The article starts with Spidas opinion re. Jolly (topical) and then proceeds to recycle the Spida redemption story (about the twentieth time the Spida conversion on the road to Sydney miracle has been written up.) Time to deliver Spida
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                    • AnnieH
                      RWOs Black Sheep
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11332

                      Originally posted by connolly
                      Gotta admire Spidas skill at making the informant (himself) the story. The article starts with Spidas opinion re. Jolly (topical) and then proceeds to recycle the Spida redemption story (about the twentieth time the Spida conversion on the road to Sydney miracle has been written up.) Time to deliver Spida
                      C'mon Connolly, Spida's been doing a great job. It's not his fault there's no one there to grab his tap down. He's still big news in Melbourne.
                      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                      • Donners
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1061

                        "Great job" is a gross exaggeration. He has been serviceable at best. I suppose it's a bit hard to have a major impact when you only play 50% of game time, but he has been quite unremarkable IMHO.

                        As for his comments on Jolly, I would take them with a pinch of salt. There is no indication he has any inside knowledge of Jolly's wishes and motivations - simply that he sees him as a key player to Sydney.

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                        • connolly
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 2461

                          Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                          C'mon Connolly, Spida's been doing a great job. It's not his fault there's no one there to grab his tap down. He's still big news in Melbourne.
                          Agree. I think he has done really well for us. But tonight is really it for Spida. He's playing with us to win a flag and hopefully he can take the maggots apart tionight with their weak ruckmen. Tonight Spidas drinking in the Last Chance Saloon.
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                          • giant
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 4731

                            Originally posted by Donners
                            "Great job" is a gross exaggeration. He has been serviceable at best. I suppose it's a bit hard to have a major impact when you only play 50% of game time, but he has been quite unremarkable IMHO.

                            As for his comments on Jolly, I would take them with a pinch of salt. There is no indication he has any inside knowledge of Jolly's wishes and motivations - simply that he sees him as a key player to Sydney.
                            Rubbish. His recruitment has been an outstanding success. There have been moments of inconsistency as you'd expect from a 33yo who didn't play much footy last year, but on the whole he's been tremendous & a key reason we've got this far.

                            However, there's still work to do especially if we get a chance vs WC next week - Cox was brilliant for them again last night & you get the feeling he steps up to #1 for WC in the absence of Kerr, Cousins & (effectively) Judd.

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                            • hammo
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 5554

                              It reads to me like Spida is trying to beef up Jolly's contract.
                              "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                              • ernie koala
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2007
                                • 3251

                                Originally posted by connolly
                                Agree. I think he has done really well for us. But tonight is really it for Spida. He's playing with us to win a flag and hopefully he can take the maggots apart tionight with their weak ruckmen. Tonight Spidas drinking in the Last Chance Saloon.
                                I'll have 'a slow screw up against the wall, with a maggot chaser' thanks .
                                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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