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  • satchmopugdog
    Bandicoots ears
    • Apr 2004
    • 3691

    Originally posted by Will Sangster
    Oh well I guess I have to stop banging on about it, its just that Schneids and Dempster were both faves of mine.

    I guess I'll just have to take comfort from the fact that we did the same to Hawthorn with Benny and Josh in last years trade period!!!
    That's the way...take the positives out of it and I think we are definitely the winners there. I like both Benny and Josh more than Schneider and Buchanan. Dempster forever in my heart.
    "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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    • satchmopugdog
      Bandicoots ears
      • Apr 2004
      • 3691

      Originally posted by stellation
      Short of us some how stumbling across a higher draft pick, I really can't see Darling falling to us.

      And has dickhead written all over him......to be expelled the shenannigans he alleged got up to must have been bad.
      "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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      • Go Swannies
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2003
        • 5697

        Originally posted by Will Sangster
        I find it hard to believe that we would have broken the salary cap given our concessions, but if so its another example of mismanagement.

        Not sure about contract statuses but agree that none of those 3 had any currency at the trade table and should simply have been cut if out of contract. Spida was also on a healthy contract for the 2008 season which wasn't warranted considering his onfield output.

        All in all it was a massive stuff up on the part of the club, there is no defending it
        No defending it? I think you could do research and find there was. This wasn't a Scott Stephens, Monty - even Jude - let's trade them and see if they can experience rebirth after a period of stagnation. If you talk to those at the club when their guard is down you may find that Schneids was seen as a good fit as a Saint's party animal and not so much for the straitlaced Swans - especially if there were going to be a lot of his juniors coming through and potentially being led the wrong way.

        Those who know our players - other than merely on the field - admire most but not all of the list. You normally only hear late at the end of the Club Champion dinner and then mainly about players that have left. Ask them if they stay in touch with Baz and Jolly, for example?

        Having said that, I think the trade to the Saints was the making for Schneids, who may have continued in a Baz-like downward spiral in Sydney. He's certainly learned at the feet of the opportunistic master - Milne.

        Dempster I think was just part of a bookend deal. But he's certainly made the most of his chances and good on him.
        Last edited by Go Swannies; 28 September 2010, 12:39 PM.

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        • Hartijon
          On the Rookie List
          • May 2008
          • 1536

          Originally posted by Go Swannies
          No defending it? I think you could do research and find there was. This wasn't a Scott Stephens, Monty - even Jude - let's trade them and see if they can experience rebirth after a period of stagnation. If you talk to those at the club when their guard is down you may find that Schneids was seen as a good fit as a Saint's party animal and not so much for the straitlaced Swans - especially if there were going to be a lot of his juniors coming through and potentially being led the wrong way.

          Those who know our players - other than merely on the field - admire most but not all of the list. You normally only hear late at the end of the Club Champion dinner and then mainly about players that have left. Ask them if they stay in touch with Baz and Jolly, for example?

          Having said that, I think the trade to the Saints was the making for Schneids, who may have continued in a Baz-like downward spiral in Sydney. He's certainly learned at the feet of the opportunistic master - Milne.

          Dempster I think was just part of a bookend deal. But he's certainly made the most of his chances and good on him.
          Interesting stuff and thanks for the insight from someone obviously close to the players. Its also good to know that the Swans are much the same as any other club,there will be players who are respected by their peers and those who will not be.Interesting comments on Schneiders , Jolly and Hall but I would like to know what happened to Buchanan? He was an out and out champion on both GF's and then he seemed to just fade and got traded. What's the inside story on this move??

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          • Go Swannies
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2003
            • 5697

            Originally posted by Hartijon
            Interesting stuff and thanks for the insight from someone obviously close to the players. Its also good to know that the Swans are much the same as any other club,there will be players who are respected by their peers and those who will not be.Interesting comments on Schneiders , Jolly and Hall but I would like to know what happened to Buchanan? He was an out and out champion on both GF's and then he seemed to just fade and got traded. What's the inside story on this move??
            I'm guessing that it was all on field. Monty was a great in and under sort of player and then he lost his effectiveness. I was hoping it'd come back with his move to the Lions but it doesn't seem to have done so. Was there an injury of some sort? Did he just wear out? He was one of my favourite players so it was sad to see him lose the drive that made him special. You see some players like Schneids, Nicky D and even Goodes become a bit full of themselves and go off on the field. But Monty just faded away to become a bit player. Why?

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            • Turner
              On the Rookie List
              • Sep 2009
              • 58

              Stuart Maxfield was today interviewed by afl.com.au in regards to the draft and trade week.

              - Looks likely the club is going to be very active again at the trade table.

              Last edited by Turner; 28 September 2010, 08:26 PM.
              My Man Mumford!

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16764

                Originally posted by Turner
                Stuart Maxfield was today interviewed by afl.com.au in regards to the draft and trade week.

                - Looks likely the club is going to be very active again at the trade table.

                http://www.afl.com.au/Video/tabid/76...k/Default.aspx
                Interesting comments re Vez and Meredith. Reasonably positive about Vez's efforts, though nothing to indicate they won't consider trading him. Much more definite about Meredith and how they see his long-term future at the club.

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                • ugg
                  Can you feel it?
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15969

                  A cynical observer might say 'You wouldn't want to be talking down a player who you might offer for trade'
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                  • Primmy
                    Proud Tragic Swan
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 5970

                    I was just fascinated seeing Stuey talk. AS a player he skirted around that whenever he could.
                    If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                    • 707
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6204

                      I currently can't get the video, can someone precis what was said please.

                      Thanks in advance

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                      • Peace
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 598


                        Trade winds: Cats wait, Tigers get busy - AFL.com.au


                        Hawthorn is also dealing with the prospect of losing a disillusioned player, with the club questioning the professionalism of livewire forward Carl Peterson.
                        reckon we could turn this bloke around? being up in sydney helps a lot of players take a break from footy every second of the day.

                        he is an amazing player when he is "on" but perhaps a little too similar to Jetta and Rohan.

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                        • ItsAllGoodes
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 675

                          Originally posted by 707
                          I currently can't get the video, can someone precis what was said please.

                          Thanks in advance
                          Questions asked...
                          Will the Swans be active in the exchange period?
                          Would we trade our top draft pick?
                          Would players like Vesz and Meredith be put out as possible trades?


                          Answers include:
                          Swans were very happy with their trade period last year getting Mumford, Kennedy and McGlynn, and then later Bradshaw via the draft
                          Swans would look to see who is available in the trade period and whether those players met any of our requirements...didnt really say what our requirements were
                          As for Vesz and Meredith...the interviewer floated them because they had failed to crack into the line-up after several years
                          Maxfield said club was happy with both of them...was probably more committal to Meredith who had struggled with injuries but was seen as a long term Swan. Vesz was described as someone who was working hard, had had a good year with the Reserves
                          Also stated that even though we dont have a high draft pick, that there is some quality in the draft.
                          Red and white till I die

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                          • caj23
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2462

                            RE: Peterson, I was hanging out for us to draft him back in 2006 as he is extremely talented. Word is that he wants to go back to WA, if he is struggling with life as an AFL player that will be the 2nd club he has burnt and we should probably steer clear.

                            I haven't watched the Maxfield interview yet, but I really hope we aren't very active this trade period. We were succesful trading last year but that was a pretty unique set of circumstances. I think topping up with more mid tier players this year won't help us bridge the gap on the top 2 next year and won't help us win a premiership in the long run.

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                            • sharp9
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2508

                              I felt certain at the time that Dempster was thrown in for free because Roos no longer rated him in the 22 and told Rossy you can have him for free if you want him. Of course, I could be wrong.
                              "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                              • Nich
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2010
                                • 1291

                                Swans set to trade again

                                Interesting....

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