2017 trading, drafting, list management

[S.S. Bleeder]

AFL pay deal to drive massive salary cap increase

Maybe we will have a bit extra to offer, given the reports in this piece.

Doesn't that mean that the Melbourne clubs will have more to offer as well?

[Ludwig]

If you take the Dustin Martin case as an example, assuming the accuracy of the reporting, then he's been offered 800k at Richmond, but would not leave for less than 1 million. So it takes a bit extra to pry a player away from his club if he's happy there. In the Dusty case, at least 200k more. Could we extrapolate and say that if we offered Zak 500k and a 5 year deal, it would take a 700k pa deal for him to leave?

Of course Zak will get some nice offers from a few clubs. Every quality player out of contract will be experiencing the same, especially now with the extra cap space. I suppose we will see how good Tom Harley is this year.

We also don't know how many of those big signings in Parker, JPK, Hanners, Heeney and Mills have salary cap increase adjustment clauses in their contracts and how many are fixed.

[Cosmic Psycho]

Doesn't that mean that the Melbourne clubs will have more to offer as well?

Of course, but our offer will be largely determined by the salary cap. Given the increase, we may be able to be more competitive with our offer, is what i was getting at.

[Billericay]

We also don't know how many of those big signings in Parker, JPK, Hanners, Heeney and Mills have salary cap increase adjustment clauses in their contracts and how many are fixed.

It never occurred to me that players might have salary cap increases built into in their contracts. I thought the genius with the Buddy deal was that it was expected that by the time it ended, paying a player $1million wouldn't be that much because of the increase in the salary cap. Like the Alastair Lynch deal Ireland did at Brisbane.

The numbers that are being bandied about might seem high, but if you add 20-25% to current salaries then not so much e.g. a $500k player would be a $600k player, an $800k player would now be worth $1million.

I also think most players play primarily to win premierships NOT for the $ and that's a huge reason why players want(ed) to go to Hawthorn and not to North Melbourne. From that POV if the Swans do badly this year it's good for draft picks but could be bad for player retention, unless it's obvious that it's a one year blip.

[Steve]

We also don't know how many of those big signings in Parker, JPK, Hanners, Heeney and Mills have salary cap increase adjustment clauses in their contracts and how many are fixed.

I think it's widespread across the league for players who have signed in the last 12 months.

Every player manager would have been requesting such a clause, and the only way they would have accepted a deal without would be i) if the contract was so significant it essentially built the adjustment in, or ii) for a fringe player without a lot or bargaining power.

[crackedactor]

Reid has been a tease for most of his career, and has a relatively fragile body.

If letting him go to a Melbourne club will get us a first round compensation pick....I'd take it in a heartbeat.

I'm still gutted we let Nankervis slip through our fingers....Especially after already letting Mummy go.

He and Naismith would of complimented each other really well and may well have become the best double act in the comp.

If Tippett continues to underperform, there is no way we should keep him beyond his current contract.

As for Sinclair , he is nothing but an average backup.

We need to find a new ruck/forward soon, to go in tandem with Naismith...Fingers crossed Cameron offers something.

Jones is quickly becoming the most promising young midfielder on our list (along with Heeney), I love the way he goes about it....IMO we should make him our absolute priority.

At last a sensible post... Jones is a priority especially as we lost Mitchell because we could not pay him any more. I cannot believe people are complaining about letting Reid go?? Even when he is fit, he plays a good game about 1 in every 4. We can move him on, especially if it helps keep Jones.

[Mug Punter]

At last a sensible post... Jones is a priority especially as we lost Mitchell because we could not pay him any more. I cannot believe people are complaining about letting Reid go?? Even when he is fit, he plays a good game about 1 in every 4. We can move him on, especially if it helps keep Jones.

I agree that of the two Jones would be the one I'd prefer to keep but we simply may not have that choice and I'd take Reid if he accepts around the $600K mark.

And in this insane over-inflated market we may well elect to lose both as crazy as it seems. If it means having close to an additional million to carry forward and front load a few deals and go to the draft with three first round picks and quite likely five inside 40. A gun KPF with our first pick, three mids with the next and an additional KPD with our pick 40+. I honestly think we can write off being better than GWS for the next three years so why not start a rebuild with 2020 as the year we are genuine contenders

[Auntie.Gerald]

It's hard to leave the best city in the world ????

[grarmy]

It's hard to leave the best city in the world ????

It's hard to turn down a deal that sets you up for life.

[aardvark]

It's hard to leave the best city in the world ??

They already did when they went to Sydney didn't they?

[sprite]

If out put is a criteria to trade players, then Rohan is a no brainer. His out put is mediocre at best.

We now have others to take his role. A third round pick would get the deal done.

[AB Swannie]

If out put is a criteria to trade players, then Rohan is a no brainer. His out put is mediocre at best.

We now have others to take his role. A third round pick would get the deal done.

I've thought for some time that Rohan is played out of position in the forward line. I think he should be used off the half back flank using his run and carry.

However, if he continues to play in his current role then I too wouldn't be against a trade.

[Flying South]

I've thought for some time that Rohan is played out of position in the forward line. I think he should be used off the half back flank using his run and carry.

However, if he continues to play in his current role then I too wouldn't be against a trade.

He's been tried off half back numerous times and he just doesn't find enough of the ball. His career average of 10 disposals doesn't change much where ever he play's. Those sorts of numbers are unacceptable in the backline. Though those numbers are a little more tolerable up forward when combined with his forward defensive pressure and goal threat. Whilst he is certainly athletic, i don't think he has a lot of footy smarts. He has limitations, but he performs a role in the team. Once I lowered my expectations, i am happy with that.

[tlock]

We need another Brett Kirk on our team. A tagging specialist who's able to shut down the opposition's best player. Any one comes to mind?

[Markwebbos]

We need another Brett Kirk on our team. A tagging specialist who's able to shut down the opposition's best player. Any one comes to mind?

Kieren Jack