2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Muttley]

Two gun NSW boys that are very gettable - Todd Marshall and Will Setterfield - as well as Nick Blakey.
Not sure how to get all 3 but would be a coup.
Then there is Darcy Moore...

[Auntie.Gerald]

I reckon Blakey won’t be in top 15

I don’t see the certainty at all and there are a stack of good players in this draft at a lower risk / higher probability

Asa very very very lean 194cm like jack watts it is very difficult to have certainty re his path of development

[0918330512]

Two gun NSW boys that are very gettable - Todd Marshall and Will Setterfield - as well as Nick Blakey.
Not sure how to get all 3 but would be a coup.
Then there is Darcy Moore...

... who is worth a small sack of potatoes and an unripe turnip (and they’d better include several rolls of rigid sports tape and a tube of Voltaren gel in the trade to help keep his body from falling apart in the first 3 rounds)

[dejavoodoo44]

... who is worth a small sack of potatoes and an unripe turnip (and they’d better include several rolls of rigid sports tape and a tube of Voltaren gel in the trade to help keep his body from falling apart in the first 3 rounds)

Umm, do Collingwood give us the potatoes, or do we have to give them the potatoes??

[Markwebbos]

Two gun NSW boys that are very gettable - Todd Marshall and Will Setterfield - as well as Nick Blakey.
Not sure how to get all 3 but would be a coup.
Then there is Darcy Moore...

I'm confused by this post. Are you suggesting we go after TM and WS as trades? Why do we need Marshall?

[0918330512]

Umm, do Collingwood give us the potatoes, or do we have to give them the potatoes??

We give them the potatoes and the turnip. They give us Moore, tape & gel

I’ve looked through my pantry and I’ll chip in the spuds to get the deal done

[dejavoodoo44]

We give them the potatoes and the turnip. They give us Moore, tape & gel

I’ve looked through my pantry and I’ll chip in the spuds to get the deal done

Oh, I was just asking because I quite like potatoes. I don't think I'm interested in the trade, now.

[AB Swannie]

I think one way or another, our first round draft pick will be involved in a trade. It will involve either:

• [a] trading Hanners and our first round to Saints for pick 4
  [b] trading Lloyd and our first round and steak knives to Gold Coast for pick 3
  [c] trading our first round for an established player like Darcy Moore

Personally, my preference is option c, not necessarily because I'd love Moore but because I'd like to keep both Hanners and Lloyd. I do think Moore is a super talent and could be very good if we can help him get his body right. I understand that is a big IF but surely there are plenty of other players who have been able to overcome these issues in the past.

[Muttley]

I think one way or another, our first round draft pick will be involved in a trade. It will involve either:

• [a] trading Hanners and our first round to Saints for pick 4
  [b] trading Lloyd and our first round and steak knives to Gold Coast for pick 3
  [c] trading our first round for an established player like Darcy Moore

Personally, my preference is option c, not necessarily because I'd love Moore but because I'd like to keep both Hanners and Lloyd. I do think Moore is a super talent and could be very good if we can help him get his body right. I understand that is a big IF but surely there are plenty of other players who have been able to overcome these issues in the past.

What about young Blakey? Probably need a pick 5 equivalent to get him.

[AB Swannie]

What about young Blakey?
Probably need that pick 4 from the Saints to get him.

Nope. Blakey will (should) be bid on around pick 7. Therefore, if we have pick 4, we can take whoever we want like Izak Rankine or Bailey Smith at that pick. We then use the points from our second rounders to match the bid for Blakey when that comes around 7. It is generally considered better to use the points from later picks than 1st rounders to match bids. That is one of the main reasons why we will look to trade our first in one of the three scenarios I outlined.

[Muttley]

Nope. Blakey will (should) be bid on around pick 7. Therefore, if we have pick 4, we can take whoever we want like Izak Rankine or Bailey Smith at that pick. We then use the points from our second rounders to match the bid for Blakey when that comes around 7. It is generally considered better to use the points from later picks than 1st rounders to match bids. That is one of the main reasons why we will look to trade our first in one of the three scenarios I outlined.

Yep. Sounds reasonable.

What do you think Moore is worth? A bit hard to say. Maybe a pick 10?

How about this:

Lloyd to Suns for 26 and 28 (1,400 points)
Hanners & 14 to Saints for 3
3 on a kid
Use points for Blakey.
End up with a gun kid (Rankine) plus Blakey.
Still have pick 29 (may drop down to a pick in 30s depending on Blakey bid) to use on another kid.

[goswannies]

What do you think Moore is worth? A bit hard to say. Maybe a pick 10?

Honestly, why would we want Moore? Some bodies aren’t made for AFL football. We already have a couple of them on our list. And I’d prefer ours to him.

[0918330512]

Oh, I was just asking because I quite like potatoes. I don't think I'm interested in the trade, now.

Ok. I send you the potatoes and we stop all this Moore nonsense

[707]

Gold Coast and Harley have said GC aren't putting an offer to Lloyd so he's either staying or going to a cashed up club like Carlton, Saints, North. I reckon he'll stay for a bit less than he can get elsewhere.

Not sure what to make of the Hanners/St.Kilda situation.

If we swap our first (plus player) for a high first it has to be for certain as much as possible before a Blakey bid which whilst we don't know when it will come should be around 7-10.

[AB Swannie]

Yep. Sounds reasonable.

What do you think Moore is worth? A bit hard to say. Maybe a pick 10?

How about this:

Lloyd to Suns for 26 and 28 (1,400 points)
Hanners & 14 to Saints for 3
3 on a kid
Use points for Blakey.
End up with a gun kid (Rankine) plus Blakey.
Still have pick 29 (may drop down to a pick in 30s depending on Blakey bid) to use on another kid.

As I said earlier, I'd prefer to keep both Lloyd and Hanners. Draft picks, even high ones in a so called super draft are risky. I'll take the established players thanks. In an ideal world, I'd prefer to give up our first to jag Polec rather than Moore.