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  • rojo
    Opti-pessi-misti
    • Mar 2009
    • 1103

    Why wouldn't Stephen's manager advise him to consider other options. At the moment, most of this year in fact, he is not guaranteed a spot in the starting 22 and it is hard to see where his best position is in our current structure. As a no. 5 draftee that must so disappointing and depressing! If another club can offer him more certainty why shouldn't he be open to that. At the moment he faces a future at the Swans similar to that of Wicks, Clarke and Francis.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6480

      It’s another incredible circumstance in footy

      Fischer didn’t turn out as well as expected for Adelaide and he was one of their all time highest picks in the draft

      But a young nsw boy who played a litttle in the GWS academy goes and cracks in for a KPD spot and Adelaide got him effectively for free !

      Nick Murray…….I wonder if he wants to come back to NSW ???

      Nicholas Murray | AFL

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      Stephen’s for Murray ?
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • crackedactor 01
        Regular in the Side
        • Jun 2020
        • 743

        Originally posted by wolftone57
        My thoughts exactly. If a contract is in front of a player the whole year and his management don't to bite then he's gone. McLean's management is doing the same thing but with him it's a matter of getting a little more not moving on

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        I hope you are right on McLean. He has been outstanding over the last 4 weeks. I know Richmond were really keen on signing him up.

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        • chalbilto
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2007
          • 1139

          I have more confidence with McLean re-signing than Stephens doing so.

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4050

            Hope you're right but Beatson's prediction of this week hasn't happened.

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            • The Big Cat
              On the veteran's list
              • Apr 2006
              • 2356

              Originally posted by Blood Fever
              Hope you're right but Beatson's prediction of this week hasn't happened.
              No announcement doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Swans tend to pick their times for such announcements.
              Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4050

                Hope you're right. Not that he is in the same class, but I'm still carrying scar tissue from the Dawson episode.

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                • Ruck'n'Roll
                  Ego alta, ergo ictus
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3990

                  Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                  But a young nsw boy who played a litttle in the GWS academy goes and cracks in for a KPD spot and Adelaide got him effectively for free !

                  Nick Murray…….I wonder if he wants to come back to NSW ???

                  Nicholas Murray | AFL

                  Stephen’s for Murray ?
                  I wonder whether his brother Sam's career mightn't have made us wary of Nick?
                  Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 19 August 2023, 03:20 AM.

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16773

                    Stephen?

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      Mitch Cleary thinks the Barass deal may not be dead yet

                      “Not putting a line through it”: Will Barrass really remain an Eagle in 2024?

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        Originally posted by liz
                        That is simply not true. While all of these have Sydney taking Flanders (some after bidding on Green), he is mentioned by the most credible of these (as Twomey has contacts within the industry) as being under consideration, not just by the Swans at five but by other clubs with picks shortly after.

                        Cal Twomey's 2019 Phantom Draft: Top 30, your club's whispers

                        2019 AFL Phantom Draft

                        2019 AFL Phantom Draft
                        Stephens was at best predicted to go pick 10 or later.
                        We used pick 5. Which should be for a substantially better player than pick 10.

                        Right now, a redraft of 2019 would have him past pick 20. Even Jake Riccardi at pick 51 is ahead of him.

                        He has been a waste of pick 5. His market value is probably between pick 15 ( potential) to pick 20 (reality).
                        If we get something like that, take it

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                        Correction. If we get Anything better than pick 15, take it. Otherwise hold him. He's on track to be in our best 22 in the coming years, and a pick 20 is still a good player.

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Originally posted by barry
                          Stephens was at best predicted to go pick 10 or later.
                          We used pick 5. Which should be for a substantially better player than pick 10.

                          Right now, a redraft of 2019 would have him past pick 20. Even Jake Riccardi at pick 51 is ahead of him.

                          He has been a waste of pick 5. His market value is probably between pick 15 ( potential) to pick 20 (reality).
                          If we get something like that, take it

                          - - - Updated - - -

                          Correction. If we get Anything better than pick 15, take it. Otherwise hold him. He's on track to be in our best 22 in the coming years, and a pick 20 is still a good player.
                          Most likely scenario is he walks to North for a pick in the 30s

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                          • gloveski
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1018

                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            Most likely scenario is he walks to North for a pick in the 30s
                            Best case scenario if he leaves that there is interest from a few clubs


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                            • lwjoyner
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 952

                              just read contract staus for swans players , out as of end of 2023. we know about mclean an stephens. also arnold (need to sign up),hall kan.magor.mcandrew (need tgo resign0 rankin.meiican,clarke,reid,wicks,hickey (need to resign as back up) and gould. whare these right and what do others think?

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                              • Thunder Shaker
                                Aut vincere aut mori
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 4201

                                Here is an article on SEN that lists every AFL player linked to a trade or free agency move in 2023.
                                Sydney has two players listed: Dylan Stephens and Hayden McLean. Of course, this isn't telling us anything we don't already know.

                                I've linked the article to provide some perspective. Six clubs have two players listed; no club has fewer. St Kilda has six players on the list, four clubs have five players. The average is 3.4 players per club (61 players total).

                                Some of the players are given as links with more information. This may be useful later.
                                "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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