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  • Blood Fever
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 4040

    Would be great if Sheldrick/Roberts became as proficient as Tom Liberatore who is not overly big or quick but very proficient at what he does.

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    • waswan
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2015
      • 2047

      I dont think we need mids at all, our are just young. Most regular youngsters are overperforming given their age.

      We need Mclean signed and a Key forward or defender or both, depending on whether he signs.

      We dont need a 1st round pick, get the points for the academy kid and a couple other prospects.

      Konstanty hasnt played yet, Sheldrick will be in the 22
      A few decent guys in the 2s untried plus the 2 mid season recruits who could maybe play after a good pre season.

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      • Ruck'n'Roll
        Ego alta, ergo ictus
        • Nov 2003
        • 3990

        Originally posted by Blood Fever
        Would be great if Sheldrick/Roberts became as proficient as Tom Liberatore who is not overly big or quick but very proficient at what he does.
        I think that is exactly what Sheldrick in particular was drafted for.
        A rock solid first posession player. Getting the ball out to our runners, the more explosive runners like Warner (Papley, Heeney) in close, the distance chanpions like McInerney (Gulden, Campbell, Stephens) out wider. Which leaves Mills and Rowy fulfilling a more defensive/disruptive role. Rowy in particular seems to love the junkyard dog work.
        Roberts looks like another extractor to me so far, good hands strong body.

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4040

          Spot on

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4040

            Spot on refers to RucknRoll post

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            • Maltopia
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2016
              • 1556

              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
              one of our supporters recently suggested where is our next Kennedy type of player that we maybe able to attract? ie inside hard body to help our clearances.

              I think that same supporter suggested that James Worpel is out of contract and only 24yrs of age but has now tallied up 100 games.

              I dont think he is high on our radar, yet i think he would be a handy trade, not super expensive and would help our list exeperience.

              BUT..........if you get a chance to click on this link below, you are in for a treat from one of the best mids I have ever watched play the game. Sam Mitchell goes into very micro detail in this post player feedback session (after playing us last season).

              James Worpel | AFL
              Worpel has just re-signed with Hawthorn according to SEN.

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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6474

                Did anyone watch his video in the above link with Sam Mitchell

                Super cool
                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • i'm-uninformed2
                  Reefer Madness
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 4653

                  Originally posted by liz
                  I don't think Warner is especially good as a first possession midfielder unless it gets tapped straight towards him by a ruckman (not necessarily ours). His best value is as a first receiver. I do think we lack a player consistently able to collect the first possession once it has hit the ground, or to shark a tap in traffic and get it out to someone in a tiny bit more space. But I hope Sheldrick and Roberts will be a large part of the solution to that once they become established in our midfield rotation. Gulden can win the ball on the ground, but it's not the best use of his talents or stature. Ditto Papley.
                  Yep. It was noticeable on the weekend that when Parker and Rowie did the inside work better, Chad and Paps upped their impact.

                  Parish would be competing with Sheldrick for a spot, and I’ve got great faith in Sheldrick. I think Parish is a good player, but I did a read a piece that sharply analysed his numbers over a couple of years between top eight sides and the rest, and it was quite stark.

                  As a right price player I’d take him, but I’m not sure I’d take him for the kind of deal it’d take to get him out of Essendon.

                  And like others on here, sad to hear the news re Paddy, but it’s great that he can now go live a happy, healthy life.
                  'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                  • gloveski
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1018

                    Parish might not be the answer we do have a few similar , but one of our biggest issues is clearances across the season . There will be natural growth from our young midfielders but will that be enough ?
                    For me we need another clearance midfielder, another tall defender and a Ruck .Our forward line looks ok to me as we have some depth in Buller , HHK and Konstanty . All though all pretty much untried I think it’s pretty good coverage across all bases


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                    • royboy42
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2076

                      Originally posted by liz
                      I don't think Warner is especially good as a first possession midfielder unless it gets tapped straight towards him by a ruckman (not necessarily ours). His best value is as a first receiver. I do think we lack a player consistently able to collect the first possession once it has hit the ground, or to shark a tap in traffic and get it out to someone in a tiny bit more space. But I hope Sheldrick and Roberts will be a large part of the solution to that once they become established in our midfield rotation. Gulden can win the ball on the ground, but it's not the best use of his talents or stature. Ditto Papley.
                      It's nearly impossible to over estimate Josh Kennedy's importance to this team.So far proving irreplaceable.But great hopes for Sheldrick.

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                      • waswan
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 2047

                        Originally posted by royboy42
                        It's nearly impossible to over estimate Josh Kennedy's importance to this team.So far proving irreplaceable.But great hopes for Sheldrick.
                        Not one to ever deny the importance of the Great JK, love the man but.... we did win 12 of 14 games without him end of last year

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                        • Ruck'n'Roll
                          Ego alta, ergo ictus
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3990

                          JPK was shifted out of the midfield because the coaches believed they could cope without his presence (and as you observe we did) and footspeed was an issue.
                          This year our midfield has not been coping as well.
                          A big bodied midfielder is a common suggestion for the difference, but I think the difference may be somewhat taller. Last season we got 27 games from our two ruckmen, this year we got 18 - and several where neither played.
                          Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 15 August 2023, 05:49 PM.

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                          • giant
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 4731

                            Originally posted by royboy42
                            It's nearly impossible to over estimate Josh Kennedy's importance to this team.So far proving irreplaceable.But great hopes for Sheldrick.
                            Me too, but I saw him in the flesh the other day and he would fit in JPK's backpack. Guess it goes back to the previous conversation about just how big a "big-bodied" midfielder has to be.

                            I'm a big Parish fan, just don't see him leaving Essendon.

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                            • Blood Fever
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4040

                              Sheldrick is very solid. Would weigh more than T. Libertatore who is a maestro as an extractor.

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                              • Velour&Ruffles
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 896

                                Great analysis as always Liz.
                                I do think Papley is a good "first receiver" option (probably our best actually - last weekend had a couple of great examples), but I also think he has more value elsewhere. And that's certainly true of Gulden too - very capable, but I want him running a bit freer and using his laser boot capabilities to their maximum. We do need to find someone to fill this deficiency. Hopefully Sheldrick can oblige, and Rowbottom's continued development is very encouraging.
                                My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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