2010 Draft/Trade Resource & Discussion

[gloveski]

Here is a video of shaun atley who Maxfield was talking to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur32F0tf6X4

[caj23]

I felt certain at the time that Dempster was thrown in for free because Roos no longer rated him in the 22 and told Rossy you can have him for free if you want him. Of course, I could be wrong.

I think that is reasonably accurate. It was a terrible piece of list management for the following reasons:

- Dempster has been an automatic selection for the Saints who have had a superior 22 to ours
- He is a versatile player who suited our team and style of play
- He didn't bother shopping him around to other clubs to see whether he had any trade value
- He didn't bother asking the Saints for their 1st round pick instead of their 2nd

[Go Swannies]

I think that is reasonably accurate. It was a terrible piece of list management for the following reasons:

- Dempster has been an automatic selection for the Saints who have had a superior 22 to ours
- He is a versatile player who suited our team and style of play
- He didn't bother shopping him around to other clubs to see whether he had any trade value
- He didn't bother asking the Saints for their 1st round pick instead of their 2nd

However, I think Sean was the Bevo of an earlier age - but without the upside. He's done well at the Saints but there were few indications that he would have if he'd continued at the Swans. He might have well had a Luke Ablett-like decline and be retired by now, instead of playing in his third Grand Final in two years.

[caj23]

However, I think Sean was the Bevo of an earlier age - but without the upside. He's done well at the Saints but there were few indications that he would have if he'd continued at the Swans. He might have well had a Luke Ablett-like decline and be retired by now, instead of playing in his third Grand Final in two years.

He was/is never going to be a topline player but there seems to be a bit of revision of history by some fans to defend the trade (e.g. Schneider had stagnated, Dempster was no good). Dempster had a 22 possession, 11 mark game against West Coast in 2007 and got dropped the following week. His output that year when he got a game was comparable to his time at the Saints.

Ablett barely had a 22 possesion game in his whole career

[Go Swannies]

He was/is never going to be a topline player but there seems to be a bit of revision of history by some fans to defend the trade (e.g. Schneider had stagnated, Dempster was no good). Dempster had a 22 possession, 11 mark game against West Coast in 2007 and got dropped the following week. His output that year when he got a game was comparable to his time at the Saints.

Ablett barely had a 22 possesion game in his whole career

When he was traded, Roos was quoted as saying:

Dempster, according to Roos "would come after Kennelly,Malceski and Mattner and probably wouldn't get a game"

Which of these should have gone instead?

[RogueSwan]

When he was traded, Roos was quoted as saying:

Dempster, according to Roos "would come after Kennelly,Malceski and Mattner and probably wouldn't get a game"

Which of these should have gone instead?

Shaw?

[caj23]

When he was traded, Roos was quoted as saying:

Dempster, according to Roos "would come after Kennelly,Malceski and Mattner and probably wouldn't get a game"

Which of these should have gone instead?

I've already stated that Crouch, Mathews and Ablett should have been on the chopping block before Dempster. Rubbish quote from Roos to justify the trade, Dempster can play a lock down role as evidenced on Saturday, do you think either of those 3 could have done that job on Didak??

[Doctor J.]

I think that is reasonably accurate. It was a terrible piece of list management for the following reasons:

- Dempster has been an automatic selection for the Saints who have had a superior 22 to ours
- He is a versatile player who suited our team and style of play
- He didn't bother shopping him around to other clubs to see whether he had any trade value
- He didn't bother asking the Saints for their 1st round pick instead of their 2nd

The bolded statement is just wrong. 22 games over the past two seasons does not indicate an automatic selection.

[Go Swannies]

I've already stated that Crouch, Mathews and Ablett should have been on the chopping block before Dempster. Rubbish quote from Roos to justify the trade, Dempster can play a lock down role as evidenced on Saturday, do you think either of those 3 could have done that job on Didak??

Did you ever see Crouch play? I'd say Aker was a more wily player than Didak, as the most obvious example.

A search of RWO will reveal that in his final year at the Swans Dempster didn't reach a pass mark among posters.

IN the giant chess game of coaching I would have taken Shaw over Dempster, too.

[chuckie]

We can say what we like about both Schneider and Dempster but they will most likely be playing in there fifth grand final this week.
I hope I'm wrong but I don't think anyone on our current list will play in 5 grand finals with us.

[Go Swannies]

We can say what we like about both Schneider and Dempster but they will most likely be playing in there fifth grand final this week.
I hope I'm wrong but I don't think anyone on our current list will play in 5 grand finals with us.

In 12 months, quite a few Swans players could be playing in their third GF for the club - and that would be as many as S&D have for the Saints. Of course, S&D would be in their 5th for the Saints if it's a drawn Saints-Swans GF next year. Not sure my nerves would be up to it, though. Or Jolly could be lining up for his 6th GF.

Hey, the ramifications from two GFs a year are fun.

[Hartijon]

Are you sure its two Grand Finals this year? Isn't it one Grand Final played twice. Its the 2010 Grand Final, one Grand Final.All depends how you look at it hey?

[Bas]

The following article says Vez, Currie, Barlow and MOD all on the trade table. Won't be getting any high profile players with the lot on offer.


Veszpremi in Swans' trade mix - AFL.com.au

[RogueSwan]

The following article says Vez, Currie, Barlow and MOD all on the trade table. Won't be getting any high profile players with the lot on offer.


Veszpremi in Swans' trade mix - AFL.com.au

Already posted here
and is really just someone reporting on the Maxwell video clip.

[Jeffers1984]

I hope we perservere with Vez. I reckon he'll do much better under Horse.