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  • i'm-uninformed2
    Reefer Madness
    • Oct 2003
    • 4653

    Apparently Wicks has re-signed on a one year deal, according to Cal Twomey. Cool.
    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16773

      Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
      Apparently Wicks has re-signed on a one year deal, according to Cal Twomey. Cool.
      Reading between the lines, it sounds like maybe he wasn't too impressed with the offer the Swans gave him (maybe duration, maybe size) and was invited to explore other options. But nothing more attractive arose.

      The number of senior games he played this year (and his contribution in many of them) warrants another year on the list. But you get the feeling he's one of those players who'll always be on the edge of being delisted, and have to survive on short term contracts. Unless he makes a significant shift up the development curve.

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      • MattW
        Veterans List
        • May 2011
        • 4218

        Originally posted by neilfws
        Yes, it is much better than the headline suggests. Rare to read an in-depth and fair-minded article on the Swans ("indefensibly, put an unjustifiable trade ban on the club" for example).

        Can Sydney trade their way to a premiership again?
        Yes, Peter Ryan is a great reporter. Knows the game, even handed, no ego.

        Sent from my SM-A346E using Tapatalk

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6480

          Agree Liz

          There seems to be a few players in every squad that play a bit of Snrs but curiously are never far away from being listed or simply offered a fairly budget contract.

          Wicks appears to be one of this in our squad. Lots of effort but if he could get up closer to 30 goals per season while playing his role on the tough to handle small forwards…….then he will go next level.

          Schulz did that last two seasons at Freeo
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • stevoswan
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2014
            • 8559

            Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
            Trust me, half the kids who come to us these days are young and rambunctious and a bit rat baggery. We've got another small forward on our list who made a career out of it! And how many 19yos kicked 40 goals in a season? Ginnivan can play and watch him - he has very natural footy instincts.

            I'd do it for a pick in the 30s and AFL average salary. Alas, it looks like the Hawks have it covered.
            I was being kind when I described him as 'rambunctious' (and at least Paps is rambunctious on ther field, not off it).....I really mean Ginnivan's got an ego the size of a bus, I knew (and played against) his father and uncle.....they also had heads as big as a bus and I have it on good authority that his coach at Newstead encouraged him to be a cocky a-hole, telling him that 'it's the cocky one's that get drafted'. Look, he may grow up one day and I know the kid can play but I'm warning you, he's trouble.

            Happy to be proven wrong.....but it will probably be with Hawthorn. Phew!

            I'd rather see what Kostanty can do frankly.....and with Paps and Wicks, I think we've got the small forward roles covered.
            Last edited by stevoswan; 17 October 2023, 08:15 PM.

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              Ginnivan just signed a $10,000 deal to be the face of the cox plate. He ain't never getting side deals like that in Sydney. He loves the Vic limelight too much.

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              • Nico
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 11339

                Originally posted by barry
                Ginnivan just signed a $10,000 deal to be the face of the cox plate. He ain't never getting side deals like that in Sydney. He loves the Vic limelight too much.
                If this is true, what a lucky bloke at such a young age. He knows what he is doing. Having a good time but must make sure he understands where the bread is coming from to be involved in race horse ownership. It's not cheap. Not so sure he wouldn't get a side gig in Sydney. Tommy Papley is on the SEN Racetrack channel and maybe destined to be involved in the industry after he retires. John Jenkins works for a corporate bookie and is a form analyst on SEN and he is darn good at it.
                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                • i'm-uninformed2
                  Reefer Madness
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 4653

                  Originally posted by Nico
                  If this is true, what a lucky bloke at such a young age. He knows what he is doing. Having a good time but must make sure he understands where the bread is coming from to be involved in race horse ownership. It's not cheap. Not so sure he wouldn't get a side gig in Sydney. Tommy Papley is on the SEN Racetrack channel and maybe destined to be involved in the industry after he retires. John Jenkins works for a corporate bookie and is a form analyst on SEN and he is darn good at it.
                  Trade radio has improved a bit this year, mainly coz they got some fresh talent in and ditched the old kooks like Wallace and others who knew sweet FA. I still remember one goose last year suggesting a club do a deal with their second and third round pick, and one of the informed types had to tell them that club no longer held those picks. His response - I haven’t studied their draft hand. Doh!

                  Jenkins and Phil Davis are very good, though the Beveridge-Twomey combo is the best as they don’t rabbit on with speculative or sensationalist nonsense, and actually study the draft talent.
                  'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                  • i'm-uninformed2
                    Reefer Madness
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 4653

                    By the way, can someone explain to me how Port are allowed to have drafted out of the first round last year, effectively traded right out of the draft this year, and got bugger all left next year under the rules designed to prevent clubs from shorting away their future.

                    I don’t mind some of what Port has done in building an elite midfield, but not sure the rest of their list is so red hot post draft period that they’re not taking a giant risk on their medium and long term future.
                    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11339

                      Appears Hawthorn have their first pick at 73. I thought clubs had to go into the draft with 3 picks, and then do deals on the night that might result in lesser picks.
                      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                      • dejavoodoo44
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 8637

                        Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                        By the way, can someone explain to me how Port are allowed to have drafted out of the first round last year, effectively traded right out of the draft this year, and got bugger all left next year under the rules designed to prevent clubs from shorting away their future.

                        I don’t mind some of what Port has done in building an elite midfield, but not sure the rest of their list is so red hot post draft period that they’re not taking a giant risk on their medium and long term future.
                        Don't know, but the AFL site says that each club must make three picks at each draft? They just got a fourth round pick as part of the Duursma trade, so I suppose they can use that and their sixth and seventh round picks after everyone else is done drafting? Or use them on rookie elevations?

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                        • Thunder Shaker
                          Aut vincere aut mori
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 4200

                          Originally posted by Nico
                          Appears Hawthorn have their first pick at 73. I thought clubs had to go into the draft with 3 picks, and then do deals on the night that might result in lesser picks.
                          Hawthorn would have picks in the fifth round, sixth round and so on. It's not how many picks in the first five rounds that matter, but how many picks are used.
                          "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6480

                            Wow weeeee

                            Lucky we pulled the trigger to trade significantly

                            Port
                            Pies
                            Brisbane
                            Melbourne
                            Essendon
                            Saints
                            Carlton

                            All shuffling in players and shuffling out to tweak the gaps with experience and players that have been in AFL development systems for some time
                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6480

                              So Port only had one pick for the draft available?

                              How does that work?

                              PORT ADELAIDE

                              Who left: Xavier Duursma (trade, Essendon)

                              Who arrived: Ivan Soldo (trade, Richmond), Jordon Sweet (trade, Western Bulldogs), Esava Ratugolea (trade, Geelong), Brandon Zerk-Thatcher (trade, Essendon)

                              Draft picks owned: 73
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6480

                                Anyone interested in JJ (James Jordon) the following games might be worth watching.

                                29 disps (23 kicks 6 hballs), 8 marks, 3 tackles and a goal in Rd 13 26-pt loss to Collingwood at the MCG (13 Jun 2022) played more outside it appears

                                Also I tried to find a couple games where he had higher tackle counts ie a couple games where he may have played more inside than outside

                                2022 round 16 vs Adelaide JJ had 6 tackles and also round 7 vs Hawks 6 tackles

                                2023 round 17 vs Saints JJ had 4 tackles

                                2023 round 3 vs is he had 21 disposals and would be worth watching as it is against the Bloods
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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